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Another fictional "I've been to heaven" book
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The thing was that she wasn't even an atheist to begin with, and hardly a religious skeptic:
Quote:'I saw a lot of things that children shouldn't see,' she told WFAA. 'I always believed that God had abandoned me, that he didn't save me, that he didn't love me and I questioned if he was real.' So she had a medical procedure which many Christians call a grave sin and "baby murder," which made her feel guilty for having it done, so she saw herself as a sinner who would never be loved by God. So there was god belief there to begin with, and this NDE just followed her idea of heaven, namely: Quote:McVea says she was in a more peaceful place. After closing her eyes in the hospital, the next thing she remembers is waking up in heaven. What, no sensation of floating above your body or flying down a tunnel of light? She just "woke up" in heaven? Further proof that NDE's aren't real and are all just hallucinations.
Christian apologetics is the art of rolling a dog turd in sugar and selling it as a donut.
(October 27, 2013 at 1:03 pm)Drich Wrote: There is something missing from her account. Yes, common sense. Meanwhile, science continues to shit on their silly beliefs. http://www.livescience.com/11010-death-e...ation.html Quote: People who report near-death experiences have elevated levels of carbon dioxide in their blood and may be suffering oxygen deprivations, according to a new study published in the medical journal Critical Care. RE: Another fictional "I've been to heaven" book
October 28, 2013 at 1:04 pm
(This post was last modified: October 28, 2013 at 1:06 pm by Doubting Thomas.)
Oops, science once again pushes God further away.
Not that I look forward to death, but it gives me hope that our last moments in most cases are filled with a feeling of euphoria.
Christian apologetics is the art of rolling a dog turd in sugar and selling it as a donut.
You mean science has been debunking wild claims of seeing another realm?
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Hard to believe, eh?
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Daily mail.
The story can be dismissed safely as nonsense. (October 28, 2013 at 10:53 am)freedomfromfallacy Wrote: I'll make three points... Not just judgement. Not all who stand before God are 'judged' in their meeting. all who stand before God know of or felt the completeness of the Love God offers. This love, or the want to return to it is everything. It will consume you. the only reason one would choose to return here (to this life) as apposed to staying there, is because as an expression of your love to God, you would go because you were asked to complete a given task. Nothing this world offers trumps the Love/Agape of God. The paradox here is that if she were not asked to return, because she loved something here more (kid, husband etc..) She would not be worthy of God's Love there. So to return for any other reason than full filling a given task puts her in violation of the primary Command we have been given. Not to say she did not see or experience something, it's just what she saw/experienced does not completely jive with what the bible says. in adittion we have been warned to be wary of messages (and or visions) that contradict with scripture.
9 minutes in heaven for fifteen minutes of fame.
Not bad. ![]() Thanks to Cinjin for making it more 'sig space' friendly.
After the "oops" of Eben Alexander's BS, we'll see what journalist takes this on.
For those unfamiliar, Eben Alexander wrote the best-selling Proof of Heaven. Luke Dittrich wrote a scathing article in Esquire on Alexander that exposed most of his NDE story as outright lies. You have to pay like $2 to read it online, but it's worth it. |
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