New Levels of Low

[Esquilax]

No, it was aimed at the other Lion IRC I quoted.

Oh fuck, there's two of them now? hock:

[Bob Kelso]

No, it was aimed at the other Lion IRC I quoted.

Oh fuck, there's two of them now? hock:

Eh, the first one was pretty tame for a lion; declawed, domesticated, one might even say Bob Barker got a hold of him. Here's hoping the second one has some "roar" left in him.

Yeah yeah to the incoming opportunist shaming but I simply could not resist.

[ChildOfReason]

I could crack wise, but it would be cruel to compare someone with Down's Syndrome to someone who intentionally suffers from a learning disability.

I don't get it.
Was that aimed at me?

It is only because of humanist ideals infiltrating Christianity that Christians have changed their definition of 'human being' to include Jews, blacks, Asians and Native Americans in the last century...

What an ignorant and preposterous, unsubstantiated claim.
Care to defend it more formally? 1-on-1?
Or are you just doing your usual hit and run shtick?

So, this entire debate you've been asked to defend your argument, and you respond by attacking a distorted version of the opposing argument, but when someone says something that is evident to anyone who has ever taken a history class, and you ask them to support their claim, along with an insult? Pathetic.

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No, I don't understand how anyone could call it justice.

When any rational person can only ever see it as petty and spiteful cruelty against much weaker entities that cannot fight back.

Like I said you can't understand, I'm glad to see you admit God is a most powerful being, you're beginning to make progress.

GC

¨You don't understand my gods judgement¨ is not a valid argument. It is one of the most ridiculous and idiotic claims I've ever heard. I can kick you in the face, sleep with your wife, and murder your child. I could not justify these actions with ¨You don't understand my gods judgement¨.

[Lion IRC]

I don't get it.
Was that aimed at me?

No, it was aimed at the other Lion IRC I quoted.

What an ignorant and preposterous, unsubstantiated claim.
Care to defend it more formally? 1-on-1?
Or are you just doing your usual hit and run shtick?

I'll be more than happy to substantiate it.

Jews: Targeted by Christians for 2,000 years. Frequently targets of murder, theft, rape. The subject of Christian pogroms and the German Holocaust, which was executed mostly by Christian Germans (who, of course, had a lot of other people they thought of as subhuman).

Blacks: 300 years of slavery at the hands of Christians plus another 100+ years of apartheid, also at the hands of Christians. Christians frequently portrayed blacks in the past, and to a certain extent continue to portray blacks today, as base, simian beasts.

Asians: Victims of Christian nations in many imperial wars of conquest and forced servitude. Thought of as inferior in intelligence to good Christian white men.

Native Americans: Hoo boy. Christian Spain started things off with a mass campaign of slavery, genocide and forced conversion of American natives from the moment they first reached the shores of the Western Hemisphere and it kept right on going through to the wars of eradication and theft by the Christian-dominated United States up until not very long ago.

As for a debate? It would be beneath me to accept it even if I had any interest. How amazingly hypocritical of you to call me out for an unsubstantiated claim after you made one and still continue to refuse to substantiate it. No. How about, instead, we play a game of Hide and Go Fuck Yourself.

THATS how you formally answer my challenge?
Vague generalisations. "Frequently targets of murder, theft, rape."
A complete lack of citations. Stupid red herrings - Apartheid? Desmond Tutu is a CHRISTIAN!!!

If murdering Jews is a 'Christian' cause, why were Christians from around the world fighting to stop Germany/Hitler?

You said it was only because of...

...humanist ideals infiltrating Christianity that Christians have changed their definition of 'human being' to include Jews, blacks, Asians and Native Americans in the last century......

If Christianity didn't hold that all nations were in need of The Gospel of Jesus, they wouldn't have cared about spreading the Gospel to ALL NATIONS equally. And the care for ALL nations and ALL people certainly started much further back in history than the "last century".

[Brakeman]

If murdering Jews is a 'Christian' cause, why were Christians from around the world fighting to stop Germany/Hitler?

Like this?



Did you know who ceded the land for the Vatican city to become an independent country? "Mussolini!"

Do you know how many facists and Nazi's attended the "christening" ceremonies? "A bunch"

Why did the German people insist that all their Nazi soldiers wear a "Gott mit uns" slogan on their uniforms?

Did the U.S. join the war because someone was doing the poor jews wrong, or did they join the war because of the attack on Pearl Harbor?

Are you just being a troll or what?

[Jacob(smooth)]

If murdering Jews is a 'Christian' cause, why were Christians from around the world fighting to stop Germany/Hitler?

Like this?



Did you know who ceded the land for the Vatican city to become an independent country? "Mussolini!"

Do you know how many facists and Nazi's attended the "christening" ceremonies? "A bunch"

Why did the German people insist that all their Nazi soldiers wear a "Gott mit uns" slogan on their uniforms?

Did the U.S. join the war because someone was doing the poor jews wrong, or did they join the war because of the attack on Pearl Harbor?

Are you just being a troll or what?

From a point of pedantry, America joined the war because Germany declared war on America. So I'm not sure that "joined the war" is a brilliantly clear way of putting it.

Besides that, carry on. Silly argument is silly.

[Tonus]

If Christianity didn't hold that all nations were in need of The Gospel of Jesus, they wouldn't have cared about spreading the Gospel to ALL NATIONS equally. And the care for ALL nations and ALL people certainly started much further back in history than the "last century".

But if you go back far enough, you run into the Christian god whose definition of "spreading the gospel to all nations" involved annihilating several them to the last man, woman, and child (unless the chosen nation needed wives).

[Godscreated]

If Christianity didn't hold that all nations were in need of The Gospel of Jesus, they wouldn't have cared about spreading the Gospel to ALL NATIONS equally. And the care for ALL nations and ALL people certainly started much further back in history than the "last century".

But if you go back far enough, you run into the Christian god whose definition of "spreading the gospel to all nations" involved annihilating several them to the last man, woman, and child (unless the chosen nation needed wives).

Christianity was quite a bit in the future, the times you're alluding to was centuries into the past. So there was no gospel to be spread, the prophecies were still being written about Christ's coming.

GC

[Brakeman]

From a point of pedantry, America joined the war because Germany declared war on America. So I'm not sure that "joined the war" is a brilliantly clear way of putting it.

Besides that, carry on. Silly argument is silly.

You should pay more attention in high school. It is silly that you state that the US joined the war because Germany declared war on us. That is the stupidest history statement that I've heard so far on these boards.

The US people were reluctant to join the European war, but the US government was eager to help our allies with everything but entry into the war. Our containment actions in the pacific enraged Germany's ally, Japan. Japan attacked Pearl Harbor. The US declared War on Japan. Germany declared war on us for declaring war on their ally. We declared war on Germany.

Our entry into the war was as a direct result of the attack on Pearl Harbor.

[Bad Writer]

But if you go back far enough, you run into the Christian god whose definition of "spreading the gospel to all nations" involved annihilating several them to the last man, woman, and child (unless the chosen nation needed wives).

Christianity was quite a bit in the future, the times you're alluding to was centuries into the past. So there was no gospel to be spread, the prophecies were still being written about Christ's coming.

GC

You ever heard of the Crusades?