The religious problem with evolution

[Optimistic Mysanthrope]

Are the raelians still around??? I'd forgotten all about them

[Minimalist]

It is inevitable that any challenge to a fundamentalist's views on religion, somehow move into a conversation about evolution (an attempt at an attack by the theist specifically). I always find this quite curious that this seems to be a constant. I have numerous questions about this.

1) Why not attack other scientific theories, like relativity or gravity or plate tectonics?

2) Do theists think evolution is somehow weaker?

3) Is it more strongly related to the fact that loud-mouth fundamentalists have been doing it since Darwin, so they just keep going?

4) How does it logically follow that if evolution is false, that religion must be true?

5) How would one disprove evolution? (with science or religion?)

Along that line I have wondered for years why creationism is such a line in the sand for them? After all, their godboy spent precious little time allegedly talking about creation but did spend a fuckload of time driving out demons.

Why are they not insisting that "Demon Driving" be added to med school curricula?

I suspect it comes down to a god of the gaps problem. Medicine has made great strides in recent years and people see that their science works...and keeps them alive. Creationism seeks to capitalize on the perception that The Big Bang is difficult to comprehend and moreover does not have an immediate impact on anyone's life.

The gap in this case, is between the ears of the creationist.

[Brian37]

The Raelian UFO cult believes in Intelligent Design, but that aliens intelligently designed all life on Earth, not God. I don't know if they attack evolution or any other scientific theory, though.

Uggg, yea but these si fi nuts don't have the same numbers or political power otherwise you might see a huge push to justify the obvious distance and speed gap they try to justify.

[*Deidre*]

When I was practicing Christianity, I could separate my faith from science, no problem. I found it over time though, a lot harder to substantiate my faith in light of science. Faith has nothing to do with facts, otherwise it wouldn't be called faith. In dissecting the Bible bit by bit, I came to the conclusion that I couldn't keep following something at worst, that was a lie or at best, was little more than watered down fables passed down through the centuries

The thing about religion is that it prevents freedom of thought which is why many theists have a hard time thinking outside of their religions. Religion requires obedience not based on anything factual. It is sad but true when you see theists more comfortable with fiction than with fact. If you cannot prove something through a scientific process, it's not that it isn't true, it just can't be called fact. The Bible is not factual, but theists will support it as if it is.

They will try to refute fact to support their faith, which isn't based on fact.

I don't find that funny, it's downright sad.

[Sleepy]

There is no problem with Islam and evolution. Humans and apes share a common ancestor, and we branched off in regards to genes. Adam and Eve most were most likely created with a lot of genetic diversity

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"It is We Who created you and gave you shape; then We bade the angels prostrate to Adam, and they prostrate; not so Iblis; He refused to be of those who prostrate." Quran 7 : 11

Allah created the species and than gave us human shape. He created first and then gave shape.

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Quran 71:14

"'Seeing that it is He that has created you in diverse stages?

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Quran 71: 17
"'And Allah has produced you from the earth growing (gradually),

Quran 76: 28
We have created them and strengthened their forms, and when We will, We can change their likenesses with [complete] alteration.

Quran 64:3
He created the heavens and earth in truth and formed you and perfected your forms; and to Him is the [final] destination.

[Bad Writer]

Cool story, but how do you feel about the age of the earth or of the universe? Does it conflict with your creation myth?

[TheBeardedDude]

There is no problem with Islam and evolution. Humans and apes share a common ancestor, and we branched off in regards to genes. Adam and Eve most were most likely created with a lot of genetic diversity

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"It is We Who created you and gave you shape; then We bade the angels prostrate to Adam, and they prostrate; not so Iblis; He refused to be of those who prostrate." Quran 7 : 11

Allah created the species and than gave us human shape. He created first and then gave shape.

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Quran 71:14

"'Seeing that it is He that has created you in diverse stages?

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Quran 71: 17
"'And Allah has produced you from the earth growing (gradually),

Quran 76: 28
We have created them and strengthened their forms, and when We will, We can change their likenesses with [complete] alteration.

Quran 64:3
He created the heavens and earth in truth and formed you and perfected your forms; and to Him is the [final] destination.

All I see are the ramblings of a pedophile.