Quote:Nononono! I'm genuinely not trying to make any point, I'm actually asking a question!
Oh, I was wondering because xtians don't have a good track record on gays.
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 Oh, I was wondering because xtians don't have a good track record on gays.  (November 18, 2013 at 12:03 pm)freedomfromfallacy Wrote: Atheists are not interested in making other people atheists. What "proof" and "evidence" did your new brothers against the Lord give you? Seriously! You found "truth and reasoning"? What religious lies and butchery did Jesus commit? What could an atheist say that is [absolute] in your mind and heart against Christ? Another question perhaps? Is that your definitive answer? Another question? Over and over again, atheists use people to judge God, on both sides of the issue. When both have flawed logic. And over and over again Jesus tells us that "men's ways, are not my ways". So if Jesus sides with no man.... what's not to like about Him? Why keep persecuting Jesus? Was being nailed to the cross not enough for you? If you were a "true" independent thinker... you would be affirming Jesus' Word, and condeming man on all counts! There is only ONE TRUTH! And it isn't from any man. Only lies come from men. Psalms 31:18, "Let the lying lips be put to silence;" Amen And that is my prayer for atheists.
Quis ut Deus?
 (November 18, 2013 at 1:14 pm)ronedee Wrote: Psalms 31:18, "Let the lying lips be put to silence;" Amen ... ...just... ... Jesus wept.
Sum ergo sum
 (November 18, 2013 at 1:14 pm)ronedee Wrote: Over and over again, atheists use people to judge God, on both sides of the issue. When both have flawed logic. I do not need to see the atrocious things theists do in the name of their unholy religion in order to know that god is evil. Just reading the bible and using my reading comprehension skills informs me that god is an evil psychopath.
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Bad Wolf
Compulsive procrastinator  Religious Views: Agnostic atheist, anti-theist, whovian, misanthrope? (November 18, 2013 at 1:14 pm)ronedee Wrote: There is only ONE TRUTH! And it isn't from any man. So you are saying we shouldn't listen to you then? OK
'The more I learn about people the more I like my dog'- Mark Twain
'You can have all the faith you want in spirits, and the afterlife, and heaven and hell, but when it comes to this world, don't be an idiot. Cause you can tell me you put your faith in God to put you through the day, but when it comes time to cross the road, I know you look both ways.' - Dr House “Young earth creationism is essentially the position that all of modern science, 90% of living scientists and 98% of living biologists, all major university biology departments, every major science journal, the American Academy of Sciences, and every major science organization in the world, are all wrong regarding the origins and development of life….but one particular tribe of uneducated, bronze aged, goat herders got it exactly right.” - Chuck Easttom "If my good friend Doctor Gasparri speaks badly of my mother, he can expect to get punched.....You cannot provoke. You cannot insult the faith of others. You cannot make fun of the faith of others. There is a limit." - Pope Francis on freedom of speech (November 18, 2013 at 1:28 pm)Bad Wolf Wrote:(November 18, 2013 at 1:14 pm)ronedee Wrote: There is only ONE TRUTH! And it isn't from any man. Cute! I knew that was coming....No sherlock, NOT ME...CHRISTS WORDS.
Quis ut Deus?
Bad Wolf
Compulsive procrastinator Religious Views: Agnostic atheist, anti-theist, whovian, misanthrope? (November 18, 2013 at 1:34 pm)ronedee Wrote: Cute! I knew that was coming....No sherlock, NOT ME...CHRISTS WORDS. I'll listen to christ when he comes down off his cloud and talks to me face to face. And even then, I may not believe him.
'The more I learn about people the more I like my dog'- Mark Twain
'You can have all the faith you want in spirits, and the afterlife, and heaven and hell, but when it comes to this world, don't be an idiot. Cause you can tell me you put your faith in God to put you through the day, but when it comes time to cross the road, I know you look both ways.' - Dr House “Young earth creationism is essentially the position that all of modern science, 90% of living scientists and 98% of living biologists, all major university biology departments, every major science journal, the American Academy of Sciences, and every major science organization in the world, are all wrong regarding the origins and development of life….but one particular tribe of uneducated, bronze aged, goat herders got it exactly right.” - Chuck Easttom "If my good friend Doctor Gasparri speaks badly of my mother, he can expect to get punched.....You cannot provoke. You cannot insult the faith of others. You cannot make fun of the faith of others. There is a limit." - Pope Francis on freedom of speech  (November 18, 2013 at 1:35 pm)Bad Wolf Wrote: I'll listen to christ when he comes down off his cloud and talks to me face to face. And even then, I may not believe him. First question would be "can you do that AGAIN?"
"Well, evolution is a theory. It is also a fact. And facts and theories are different things, not rungs in a hierarchy of increasing certainty. Facts are the world's data. Theories are structures of ideas that explain and interpret facts. Facts don't go away when scientists debate rival theories to explain them. Einstein's theory of gravitation replaced Newton's in this century, but apples didn't suspend themselves in midair, pending the outcome. And humans evolved from ape- like ancestors whether they did so by Darwin's proposed mechanism or by some other yet to be discovered."
-Stephen Jay Gould  (November 18, 2013 at 1:14 pm)ronedee Wrote: What "proof" and "evidence" did your new brothers against the Lord give you? Seriously! It would have been clearer to state that they showed my my faulty reasoning in believing fantasy tales from Christianity. ronedee Wrote:You found "truth and reasoning"?I found truth in coming to an awareness that Christianity is a scam perpetrated on humanity, and I did so using a reasonable approach (testing what I could demonstrate based upon experience - not unlike you do in reaching your own conclusions). ronedee Wrote:What religious lies and butchery did Jesus commit?I doubt the Jesus of the bible actually existed; to me, his entire existence constitutes one big lie. ronedee Wrote:What could an atheist say that is [absolute] in your mind and heart against Christ?They would need only point to his bigotry, hatred, baseless judgment and divisiveness to sway me from his fold. ronedee Wrote:Is that your definitive answer?Yes. ronedee Wrote:Over and over again, atheists use people to judge God, on both sides of the issue. When both have flawed logic.I don't disagree with this statement. ronedee Wrote:And over and over again Jesus tells us that "men's ways, are not my ways". So if Jesus sides with no man.... what's not to like about Him?Everything, clearly. ronedee Wrote:Why keep persecuting Jesus? Was being nailed to the cross not enough for you?Was it not enough for you, that you are here defending him? ronedee Wrote:If you were a "true" independent thinker... you would be affirming Jesus' Word, and condeming man on all counts! There is only ONE TRUTH! And it isn't from any man.Says a man. ronedee Wrote:Psalms 31:18, "Let the lying lips be put to silence;" AmenPray only for our silence, and weep not for the souls of the men your god accuses without merit. (November 18, 2013 at 1:35 pm)Bad Wolf Wrote:(November 18, 2013 at 1:34 pm)ronedee Wrote: Cute! I knew that was coming....No sherlock, NOT ME...CHRISTS WORDS. LOL! Will you allow Him to go back up there when He's done sir?
Quis ut Deus?
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