Vaccines are a plot by big pharma!

[rexbeccarox]

Yeah... in this very thread, I can think of a person who really needs to grow up. Hint: it's not BadWolf.

[Nine]

Yeah... in this very thread, I can think of a person who really needs to grow up. Hint: it's not BadWolf.

* Nine crosses his fingers

Please be me!

[Welsh cake]

2) Vaccines are an attempt by big pharmaceutical companies to get money from us

I'd say no shit Sherlock, but unfortunately there is some truth to this.

Just look up the whole controversy over the MMR vaccine.

Pharmaceutical companies such as SmithKline Beecham and Merck & Co make A LOT of money from this cocktail.

But there is no choice from the NHS, British Government or WHO to have them done separately, you have no say whatsoever, because they argue its cheaper for them.

Sadly, our health, or our concerns over how our health is administered, is secondary to the goals of a business, which is primarily to make money.

[Fidel_Castronaut]

There Is absolutely nothing wrong with MMR.

Fact - it's 100% safe regarding autism proven beyond all reasonable doubt through multiple studies over successive decades.

Fact - the MMR 'controversy' was invented by a fraud who was given backhanders to find an issue with MMR and conducted unethical, illegal experiments with unnessesary invasive treatments on minors.

Fact - it is cheaper than doing it separately and a LOT more efficient. You nail 3 vaccines in one. And what's cheaper for the government is cheaper for us as taxpayers.

There Is no reason to get them done separately unless you have extenuating circumstances (where on the NHS you can get them done). If it's cheaper and just as safe (if not more safer), then it would be illogical to do that any other way.

Fact - pharmaceutical companies get very, very little money from immunological research and the implementation of vaccination programmes relative to the majority of their other drug treatments. It's a one treatment paradigm. Pharma companies get most of their revenue from repeated treatment programmes such as anti-depressants et al. Where people require prolonged treatments (possible for their entire life) and where generics are much harder to create and much harder to market.

Id be interested to see what figures you've found for money generated by companies like GSK for sales of MMR relative to research input and cost of production.

[Bad Writer]

Make sure to make us look as bad as you can so that you can spread that misinformation far and wide!

Why do you continue with this shit, grow up asshole.

If you would listen to anything we told you, then you'd at least know that we will continue to respond to you no matter how many times you post here. Your brand of bad advice kills people, so we need to make sure that anyone reading this can hear both sides of the argument. (It also helps that we back our side up with all kinds of nifty facts and evidences whereas, sadly, you have never done so.)

[psychoslice]

Why do you continue with this shit, grow up asshole.

If you would listen to anything we told you, then you'd at least know that we will continue to respond to you no matter how many times you post here. Your brand of bad advice kills people, so we need to make sure that anyone reading this can hear both sides of the argument. (It also helps that we back our side up with all kinds of nifty facts and evidences whereas, sadly, you have never done so.)

The thing is, you are so arrogant that no matter what I say or anyone else, you have already made up your mind that you are 100% right, as it is said in the bible, 'don't throw your pearls among swine, for they will be trampled over'.

[Losty]

I think it's arrogant to assume you know what someone else thinks. I genuinely asked you to share what you know, because I was interested. You refused to tell me because you said I had already made up my mind. I still to this day have not made up my mind completely. If there is real evidence of a vaccination being dangerous then yes I obviously want that. My kids get vaccinated.
You are always accusing everyone else of being arrogant, but you expect people to just believe whatever you say and then you go off on them when they ask for evidence. That seems pretty arrogant to me.

[Bad Writer]

How arrogant of you to point out p'slice's own arrogance! How arrogant of you to back up your accusation with solid evidence!

[Losty]

How arrogant of you to point out p'slice's own arrogance! How arrogant of you to back up your accusation with solid evidence!

I know I know I'm such a jerk, what can I say.

[psychoslice]

I think it's arrogant to assume you know what someone else thinks. I genuinely asked you to share what you know, because I was interested. You refused to tell me because you said I had already made up my mind. I still to this day have not made up my mind completely. If there is real evidence of a vaccination being dangerous then yes I obviously want that. My kids get vaccinated.
You are always accusing everyone else of being arrogant, but you expect people to just believe whatever you say and then you go off on them when they ask for evidence. That seems pretty arrogant to me.

Don't be stupid, I don't expect people to believe what I say, I just expect people to respect what I do believe, as I respect what you believe, simple isn't it ?.

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How arrogant of you to point out p'slice's own arrogance! How arrogant of you to back up your accusation with solid evidence!

You do try your best don't lol.