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Atheists condone and condemn rape
#81
RE: Atheists condone and condemn rape
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No true scotsman fallacy, yes?

If that is the case why isn't every single criminal charged with apostasy instead of the actual crime committed in shariah law?

Clearly your religion still thinks of its constituents as muslim even after they committed a crime. They don't stop being muslims.

And if someone says they're muslim, they're muslim, who are you to say otherwise? God?

Someone quote me if you like, I'm on ignore, but I don't really care if she replies I know what she'll say.
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#82
RE: Atheists condone and condemn rape
If she didn't have us both on ignore, she'd tell us we didn't read her post properly and just not respond to anything that's actually been said. She'd probably throw in a "read the Quran" as well, for good measure.
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#83
RE: Atheists condone and condemn rape
(December 8, 2013 at 6:30 am)NoraBrimstone Wrote: If she didn't have us both on ignore, she'd tell us we didn't read her post properly and just not respond to anything that's actually been said. She'd probably throw in a "read the Quran" as well, for good measure.

Yes exactly lol. Or she'll inform us that we've earned spots on her ignore list. There aren't a lot of options with this one.
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#84
RE: Atheists condone and condemn rape
Yep. See, we don't need her to have a conversation with her. We can fill in the gaps ourselves. lol
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#85
RE: Atheists condone and condemn rape
(December 8, 2013 at 6:17 am)Nineteen Wrote: Saying "I'm muslim" does not make you a "muslim" . You have to behave according to islamic rules . For example a thief cannot be a muslim , theft is forbidden in Islam . So their muslumanism otomatically ends even if a thief claims to be a muslim .

Another fact , criminal people usually gets closer to islam in time . Because they are regret in time and they see the beauty of Islam , there is plenty of time to read books in prisons .


I have lived in Sweden and I know how works laws there . It is one of the most free country I have ever seen in my life ,so much so that this freedom is starting to be harmful . Swedish girls usually have fun together muslim boys in night clubs . They sleep together and the next morning they goes to police because muslim boy has touch her . Muslim boy will be judged of "rape" .

They are perceived as a "muslim" boy , because they had come from eastern .

But in practice ;
A person having fun together half-naked girls cannot be a muslim .
A person sleeping together girls cannot be a muslim .
A person drinking alcohol cannot be a muslim .

Well actually committing a sin does not make you not Muslim. There's more than one hadith I've read that says if muslims don't commit a sin they will be replaced by people who do sin so that allah can forgive them.


Quote:Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) said: “I swear by Him in whose hand is my soul, if you were a people who did not commit sin, Allah would take you away and replace you with a people who would sin and then seek Allah’s forgiveness so He could forgive them.” [Sahīh Muslim (2687)]

Quote:The Messenger of God, peace and blessings of God be upon him, then replied, “If you were to remain in that state after you parted me, the angels would visit you in your homes. And if you did not sin, God would bring forth a new creation in order to sin (and repent) so that He would forgive them.”


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#86
RE: Atheists condone and condemn rape
A person who sins can be a Muslim, no average human is infallible. If a person who sins, but in his heart he really does not believe but on his tongue he says he is a Muslim is not a Muslim. He a is a munafiq, a hypocrite
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#87
RE: Atheists condone and condemn rape
(December 8, 2013 at 9:12 am)Sleepy Wrote: A person who sins can be a Muslim,

Well we have a contradiction here. I think it is about time sleepy and nineteen argued amongst themselves for a bit. At least try to hash out a coherent, consistent message.
'The more I learn about people the more I like my dog'- Mark Twain

'You can have all the faith you want in spirits, and the afterlife, and heaven and hell, but when it comes to this world, don't be an idiot. Cause you can tell me you put your faith in God to put you through the day, but when it comes time to cross the road, I know you look both ways.' - Dr House

“Young earth creationism is essentially the position that all of modern science, 90% of living scientists and 98% of living biologists, all major university biology departments, every major science journal, the American Academy of Sciences, and every major science organization in the world, are all wrong regarding the origins and development of life….but one particular tribe of uneducated, bronze aged, goat herders got it exactly right.” - Chuck Easttom

"If my good friend Doctor Gasparri speaks badly of my mother, he can expect to get punched.....You cannot provoke. You cannot insult the faith of others. You cannot make fun of the faith of others. There is a limit." - Pope Francis on freedom of speech
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#88
RE: Atheists condone and condemn rape
I was always under the impression that if you believe in the existence of Allah, you're a mulsim. If you believe Jesus died and resurrected, then you are a christian...
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#89
RE: Atheists condone and condemn rape
(December 7, 2013 at 3:17 pm)Sleepy Wrote: One of the illogical things about atheists is their belief in relativity in everything. There is no absolutes in anything.

Some may believe killing is bad, others it's ok( evolutionary asserting your dominance)
Rape is bad, rape is ok( dominant mammal satisfying sexual desire)

In fact the latter of the two is most in line with atheists as they love to talk about evolutionary adaptations.

So why can't humans rape? Any atheists that condemn rape first of all are going against relativism and assuming there should absolutely be no rape. According to whom? According to whom should there be no rape?
The answer is clear, Allah prohibits rape. The penalty is death.

Atheists live in contradictions, relativity is the foundation of atheisms while many atheists are 'condemning' rape. Rape is jus another action relative to that individual. So it's illogical for atheists to condemn it.

Islam= Probibits rape
Atheists= rape is ok to some and bad to some

Atheist responses- it's bad. You can't force somebody.

Why not? Why is it 'bad'? What's wrong with a male spreading his genes through dominating a weaker individual. Survival of the fittest right? Why is it 'wrong'?

If you view the platonic solids, they are the same no matter how you rotate them. In physics, the strong nuclear force follows a law called invariant symmetry. The strong force heels (authority over) the weak. Apart from this law, no individuation is possible from hydrogen in a high state of order with low entropy. The reason for entropy is information transfer. This process occurs because of the Neutron holding the Proton in a balanced state of spin in relation to the neutron's spin. Before any of the elements, hydrogen is one proton (+) and one electron (-) in equilibrium. The chain reaction that follows is bound by the invariant symmetry of the Neutron and proton acting on the weak force.

Above and below, this law governs cohesion, adhesion, repulsion and attraction. The governed is heeled as the electron. The electron does not abide in invariant symmetry, but is action upon by the strong force. Individuation is possible because of this. The point is to allow the heel to move us into the strong force where we abide by law.

The Bible has a parable on this with the two thieves on the cross with the Neutral. One moved into the Strong House with the savior. The other did not.

What happens when an Atom is split male/female? Genesis 2 is the answer. Wisdom is proven right by her children. Two are better than one, but three is ideal (Ecclesiastes 4). The strand of three cords is ideal in physics.

At the end of the day, the Atheist will be sad to know that our universe is governed by symmetry. For now, asymmetry is possible, but not the best choice. It's a weak house that will crumble by the will of the strong.

The word Father in Hebrew is Aleph Bet, or Strong House.

[Image: ALEPH.jpg] [Image: BET.jpg]

Above and below, the law is a mirror. Alephbet writes the Word. Son is Bet Nun, or House of seed.

[Image: BET.jpg] [Image: NUN.jpg]

DNA is is a shadow of the law in action below. The cell wall is a mirror of the Neutron. Fiat Lux!
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#90
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(December 7, 2013 at 6:58 pm)Nineteen Wrote: I'm agree about some parts , and not agree about other some parts .

So I believe the morality is innate and a human with an atheist belief doesnt mean that s/he is immoral. But atheist people is much more inclided for immoral behaviors . I've witnessed it in some atheist population density countries . You can roughly estimate about the behaviors of religious people , but you cant imagine about atheist people , anything can happen , there is no limit , this is much more dangerous .

Then why are the countries that are the most tolerant secular? Why are the religious countries always the most backward in their treatment of others?

The religious countries and particularly Islamic countries all come to resemble hell on earth as their mad views are forced on people.

I could post links but you all know what I a talking about.



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