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The biblical exodus and the Biblical Jewish kingdom.
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RE: The biblical exodus and the Biblical Jewish kingdom.
(December 11, 2013 at 12:28 pm)max-greece Wrote: I've even seen theories that Moses was Akhenaten but that appears to be a newer strand I haven't investigated at all.

I've seen similar things saying that Moses may originally have been a Thutmosis. The literature it was in - and please don't ask me for a title or an author, I have literally no idea anymore - anyway, it's not widely regarded so is probably completely up the wall. Interesting idea though.
At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist.  This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair.  Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second.  That means there's a situation vacant.'
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#32
The biblical exodus and the Biblical Jewish kingdom.
(December 11, 2013 at 10:42 pm)Minimalist Wrote:
Quote:Well, I don't think the Jews just popped out of nowhere.

The "jews" as a matter of fact popped up out of Persian nomenclature when they renamed the region Yehud.

Current archaeological theory is that towards the end of the Late Bronze Age (as laid out by Israel Finkelstein in his Archaeology of the Israelite Settlement, 1988) is that nomadic tribes living in the eastern reaches of Canaan were forced to settle down and begin growing their own grain in the Eastern Hill region because their coastal trading partners were overrun by the Sea Peoples. His colleague, and sometimes opponent, William Dever agrees on the location but argues that refugees from the aforementioned overrun agricultural centers were deeply involved in bringing the necessary knowledge of farming to the newly settled nomads. Actually, there is no reason why both positions cannot be true. One farmer with knowledge can teach many others how to farm. Dever will use the phrase "proto-Israelite" to describe these people but Finkelstein will not go that far. It doesn't matter because the growth of these villages has been charted and they grew into the states of Israel, Judah, Edom and Moab over the course of the following few centuries.

So, no. They did not pop into existence but they did originate among the indigenous population of the Eastern Hill Region of Canaan. And they were never slaves in Egypt.

Yep

And some people say that monotheism of Judaism was heavily influenced by Zoroastrianism (the first monotheistic religion).

These small groups of people that formed tribes and called their religion Judaism are also not the same "Jews" of today. They long ago assimilated into other religions and cultures. The "Jews" of today have european physical features meaning that there is no "blood line to a middle eastern people long ago that called believed in Judaism. Israel like so many places outside of Europe are the result of european settling and establishing rule over non european people's and land.

The european scum in Israel should end their fascist apartheid rule over native peoples.
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#33
RE: The biblical exodus and the Biblical Jewish kingdom.
Quote:Zoroastrianism
Was the first monotheistic religion?
I believe that there is something very wrong with this.
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Üze Tengri basmasar, asra Yir telinmeser, Türük bodun ilingin törüngin kim artatı udaçı erti?
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The biblical exodus and the Biblical Jewish kingdom.
(December 12, 2013 at 12:03 am)kılıç_mehmet Wrote:
Quote:Zoroastrianism
Was the first monotheistic religion?
I believe that there is something very wrong with this.

I believe that pan seared salmon with honey and soy glaze tastes good, I am glad we can share our random non related to the topic beliefs.

Now to the facts, Zoroastrianism was the first monotheistic religion.
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