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what makes a person a person?
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RE: what makes a person a person?
(December 16, 2013 at 2:31 pm)microxone Wrote: would it be possible to recreate yourself in the future if you die? I know the brain is made out of cells and electricity. the dna makes up who you are (hair color, eye color, skin color, etc). If we were to create the brain, and stick the brain inside a human with the same dna as the brain, would that be you? if you can indeed be revived, if we do the same process and do that with another person, would that person be you still? if both persons are you, do you control both people? What limits the control that you have? siamese twins share the same body but one of each siamese twin control a part of their body, they don't control all their body.

I don't think so because you can recreate yourself right now and it will not be you, you can have a conversation with yourself.
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#12
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I'm not sure what you mean. I am me, so I know what I would think and how I would act.
Poe's Law: "Without a winking smiley or other blatant display of humor, it is impossible to create a parody of Fundamentalism that SOMEONE won't mistake for the real thing."

10 Christ-like figures that predate Jesus. Link shortened to Chris ate Jesus for some reason...
http://listverse.com/2009/04/13/10-chris...ate-jesus/

Good video to watch, if you want to know how common the Jesus story really is.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=88GTUXvp-50

A list of biblical contradictions from the infallible word of Yahweh.
http://infidels.org/library/modern/jim_m...tions.html

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#13
RE: what makes a person a person?
Personality.

Tautological? Perhaps a little. But if you want to know what makes up 'personality': use yer head.

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#14
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Yes but the Christians say FATHER(God) is a person, SON(God) is a person, HOLY SPIRIT(God) is a person, but they're not 3 persons but one person. So 3 personalities can be one and 3 persons are one.

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Quote:If we were to create the brain, and stick the brain inside a human with the same dna as the brain, would that be you? if you can indeed be revived, if we do the same process and do that with another person, would that person be you still? if both persons are you, do you control both people?
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RE: what makes a person a person?
(December 17, 2013 at 5:57 pm)Ksa Wrote: Yes but the Christians say FATHER(God) is a person, SON(God) is a person, HOLY SPIRIT(God) is a person, but they're not 3 persons but one person. So 3 personalities can be one and 3 persons are one.

LOL

One can easily be three. Read up on multiple personalities Smile

Also... three can easily constitute one. You know... the good version of multiple personalities, where they are intelligent and work together, say... off of a vote system, and a universal 'do nothing' response when no agreement upon direction can be made.

So, from a multiple persons, singular vessel standpoint? Totally sensible. Also, from a multiple vessels, single person, standpoint: this is often referred to as a 'Hive Mind'. Which could also be looked into, since it would be well-within the lore of the religion in question.

It may well work as a singular entity forcibly separated from itself, and unable to reintegrate the experiences they've had until they again come together.

TLDR: Jesus was an alien sent on a mission to learn more about us, as a scout.
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#17
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Quote:TLDR: Jesus was an alien sent on a mission to learn more about us, as a scout.
Writing bunch of stupid shit and then getting nailed to a cross seems like a perfect way to scout other planets.
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RE: what makes a person a person?
(December 18, 2013 at 1:52 am)feeling Wrote:
Quote:If we were to create the brain, and stick the brain inside a human with the same dna as the brain, would that be you? if you can indeed be revived, if we do the same process and do that with another person, would that person be you still? if both persons are you, do you control both people?
<spacesaving>

Both identities, regardless of sameness down to the subatomic particles comprising them, are necessarily separate entities... if only because of location.

Even in a hive, every ant is in a unique location. So too are the spoons in the factory.

However. Should YOU, the reader, ever be copied down to your finest, most minute details, but standing two feet to your left: that individual would best be recognized as YOU-2 (or B, if you like letterz and shiz). Both of you are valid existences of yourself, but both of your existences are necessarily different.

As such, no. You are not, infact, the same person. Location is a part of who we are, regardless of how utterly irrelevant in any applicable manner it may be.

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And to answer your question: do you even control the one of you that you already live with? Levitate
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RE: what makes a person a person?
(December 18, 2013 at 3:24 am)Violet Lilly Blossom Wrote:
(December 18, 2013 at 1:52 am)feeling Wrote: <spacesaving>

Both identities, regardless of sameness down to the subatomic particles comprising them, are necessarily separate entities... if only because of location.

Even in a hive, every ant is in a unique location. So too are the spoons in the factory.

However. Should YOU, the reader, ever be copied down to your finest, most minute details, but standing two feet to your left: that individual would best be recognized as YOU-2 (or B, if you like letterz and shiz). Both of you are valid existences of yourself, but both of your existences are necessarily different.

As such, no. You are not, infact, the same person. Location is a part of who we are, regardless of how utterly irrelevant in any applicable manner it may be.

...

And to answer your question: do you even control the one of you that you already live with? Levitate

Even if they are same people upon creation they will become different with time. They will think differently and behave differently because they will be in different environments. So they won't be same people anymore.
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RE: what makes a person a person?
(December 18, 2013 at 3:23 am)feeling Wrote:
Quote:TLDR: Jesus was an alien sent on a mission to learn more about us, as a scout.
Writing bunch of stupid shit and then getting nailed to a cross seems like a perfect way to scout other planets.

You don't see the sociological experiment upon our people? I mean, it's not even thinly veiled, assuming we're taking it as true.

Looks like you don't deserve the full explanation... you'd dismiss it, regardless of correctness. Probably because you don't understand it... but then: how could I expect you to? Thinking
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