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God is god, and we are not god
#41
RE: God is god, and we are not god
(January 3, 2014 at 11:28 am)Drich Wrote: Created perfectly, we elected to be sick, then we choose to accept the cure or not...

In the garden.

ok if we are created perfect we would not sin, we would have perfect free will. Your god made the free will, he made it perfect. He made us sick.
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#42
RE: God is god, and we are not god
(January 6, 2014 at 4:54 pm)StoryBook Wrote: ok if we are created perfect we would not sin, we would have perfect free will.
Indeed, but it is God's perfect will that we do not sin, therefore the 'will' you speak of is God's and not our own.

Quote:Your god made the free will, he made it perfect. He made us sick.

Actually no. God did not create free will as you understand it, that is an ancient greek construct that the catholic church adopted.

Adam only was ever presented with one choice to eat from the tree of knoweledge or not.

likewise we have only one option to accept redemption or not.
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#43
RE: God is god, and we are not god
(December 27, 2013 at 10:39 am)StoryBook Wrote: Wow this was on the Christian radio station. I work a farm that plays this station every morning. Undecided
So this was the title of today’s preaching: God is god and we are not god.
He went on to say the god controls our lives and we do things at his will, bla bla bla …Let god guide us/you throw life… I kinda toned the rest of it out, but I got thinking.

What happen to Free Will? Can’t they (Christians) get their story straight?

Nope.

THeir claims and stories are inconsistant and, therefore, make no sense whatsoever.

Now, if they could agree on things their claims MIGHT be worth listening to . . .
Dying to live, living to die.
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#44
RE: God is god, and we are not god
(January 6, 2014 at 5:20 pm)Drich Wrote: Indeed, but it is God's perfect will that we do not sin, therefore the 'will' you speak of is God's and not our own.
ROFLOL why make us sin, to will us not to?
I can't understand your lack of logic.

Quote:Actually no. God did not create free will as you understand it, that is an ancient greek construct that the catholic church adopted.

Adam only was ever presented with one choice to eat from the tree of knoweledge or not.

likewise we have only one option to accept redemption or not.
We never had free will, just gods will. Gods will made Adam eat the fruit. It's gods will whether or not to accept redemption or not, not ours. You have no will to choose god, he's making you illogical.
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