Biphobia and hypocrisy of gays and lesbians

[BrokenQuill92]

I've always rated myself on the Kinsey as about a 3.6

I'm not sure why gay and lesbian people seem to think that just because someone's bisexual that makes the incapable of monogamy. And what do they have some weird prejudice against polyamory. Sometimes I feel like I'm only there so I can add to their numbers when it comes to political causes.

And I certainly don't see where the hell lesbians get off judging people for sexual experimentation went that's how a good chunk of them figured out they were lezzie. Like I don't know about the Goldstar lesbian system. I didn't know it was illegal to find out what you do and don't like.

Admittedly the "bar-sexuals" disgust me as well, but it's only because they're doing it for attention not because they're experimenting sexually and not because the bisexual, or otherwise.

[NoraBrimstone]

I'm bisexual and almost exclusively go out with guys. As far as physical attraction goes, I much prefer women; but I don't tend to get along with women, so a relationship is unlikely to work out. Plus you get less hassle from other people when you're with a person of the opposite sex.
Not that it's anybody's damn business who someone else dates anyway.

Some people are just jealous of bisexual people because we can pick and choose as we wish and they can't.

[Violet]

So because some people who are bisexual are sometimes less than 3 on the Kinsey scale what they have to go through is less important?

Kinsey scale is useless

[TaraJo]

I want to know how identity politics is making its way into this forum? I mean, I come here because I'm sick of hearing that crap everywhere else on the internet. I've seen way too many people get downright psycho over it.

This is my bottom line: I don't care what you call me. Bisexual, pansexual, pervert, whatever. Labels aren't important; what the labels stand for are. I mean, woud a rose by any other name smell as sweet?

[Violet]

If someone is more attracted to men than women, sure, it's possible, but it's far more likely to happen the other way around. Or, at very least, I can see why people would think so, anyway.

When guys start kissing other guys in bars specifically to turn on/attract third-party girls... then I'll close this one out as wholly equal. Yes, there's actually a thing where a girl will start making the moves on another girl, and then take off with a guy she's been making 'the eyes' at.

It's a thing. Still, there are guys who are only a little interested in other guys, who then take off for 'slightly more interesting' girls. I'm sure it happens... I just haven't heard nearly as many stories about it. The pressures on men and what they are socially allowed to express are sometimes just... psychotic.

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I've always rated myself on the Kinsey as about a 3.6

I'm not sure why gay and lesbian people seem to think that just because someone's bisexual that makes the incapable of monogamy. And what do they have some weird prejudice against polyamory. Sometimes I feel like I'm only there so I can add to their numbers when it comes to political causes.

Try this one when someone brings it up: "are you attracted to blond girls (guys)?", "are you also attracted to brunettes?", "Well then, are you incapable of having only one?"

As for poly... yeah, I'm lost on that one too. Poly relationships don't often seem to work out... but somehow, I think that most of that is on society's nonacceptance of poly relationships. It's a self-fulfilling prophecy.

And I certainly don't see where the hell lesbians get off judging people for sexual experimentation went that's how a good chunk of them figured out they were lezzie. Like I don't know about the Goldstar lesbian system. I didn't know it was illegal to find out what you do and don't like.

Wait, peeps be judging on experimentation? That's... probably a projection of sadness, shame, regret, and other bitter tastes.

Admittedly the "bar-sexuals" disgust me as well, but it's only because they're doing it for attention not because they're experimenting sexually and not because the bisexual, or otherwise.

Ah, that was what it was called. My beef is with noncommunication... if it's experimentation: say so up front. Unless the thing you have to say could be getting you into a very bad situation (T...), in which case: bring it up when relevant, or when safe from any potential retaliation and/or aggression.

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I'm bisexual and almost exclusively go out with guys. As far as physical attraction goes, I much prefer women; but I don't tend to get along with women, so a relationship is unlikely to work out. Plus you get less hassle from other people when you're with a person of the opposite sex.
Not that it's anybody's damn business who someone else dates anyway.

Some people are just jealous of bisexual people because we can pick and choose as we wish and they can't.

* Violet giggles at how many millennia it will take for her sexuality (in full) to be societally accepted.

I don't understand men very well, and my luck with them is... less than good. Somehow, I still like what they provide, though. Which... is fascinating, really.

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I want to know how identity politics is making its way into this forum? I mean, I come here because I'm sick of hearing that crap everywhere else on the internet. I've seen way too many people get downright psycho over it.

This is my bottom line: I don't care what you call me. Bisexual, pansexual, pervert, whatever. Labels aren't important; what the labels stand for are. I mean, woud a rose by any other name smell as sweet?

Identity politics? I strongly appreciate semantics, and the whole baggage that comes with it. However, I also recognize the need for colloquialism... even if I need to reconcile it.

A rose by the name of 'garbage' will have its scent subconsciously reinterpreted, and the experience of smelling it will thusly be different from if it were called 'a rose'. Labels change the way things are seen... for instance: I am in full support of the change from GID (gender identity disorder) to GD (gender dysphoria). Words have meaning.

[BrokenQuill92]

You know what's funny for all the slut shaming gays and lesbians do of bisexuals most of the bisexuals I've met including myself are actually still virgin. Definition of irony.

[Violet]

You know what's funny for all the slut shaming gays and lesbians do of bisexuals most of the bisexuals I've met including myself are actually still virgin. Definition of irony.

I wonder... do I still count as a virgin?

* Violet turns to the crowd.

HEY, I SAID, "DO I COUNT AS A VIRGIN?"

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Yeah, didn't think so. Virginity is more often a product of fear and shame, than it is 'a healthy abstinence'. Short flings have a risk element, but that's life... one needs to find a balance between their emotional and sexual needs.

Not that there's anything wrong with not being sexually attracted to anything, of course

[EgoRaptor]

So because some people who are bisexual are sometimes less than 3 on the Kinsey scale what they have to go through is less important?

Kinsey scale is useless

Where's the dislike button?

[BrokenQuill92]

You know what's funny for all the slut shaming gays and lesbians do of bisexuals most of the bisexuals I've met including myself are actually still virgin. Definition of irony.

I wonder... do I still count as a virgin?

* Violet Lilly Blossom turns to the crowd.

HEY, I SAID, "DO I COUNT AS A VIRGIN?"

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Yeah, didn't think so. Virginity is more often a product of fear and shame, than it is 'a healthy abstinence'. Short flings have a risk element, but that's life... one needs to find a balance between their emotional and sexual needs.

Not that there's anything wrong with not being sexually attracted to anything, of course

How should I know your sexual history? Depends on what u think counts as being a virgin.

[TaraJo]

A rose by the name of 'garbage' will have its scent subconsciously reinterpreted, and the experience of smelling it will thusly be different from if it were called 'a rose'. Labels change the way things are seen... for instance: I am in full support of the change from GID (gender identity disorder) to GD (gender dysphoria). Words have meaning.

True, there is some value to labels, but I think it's also possible to place too much importance on labels. I mean, Janice Raymond often refered to transsexuals as transsexuals, but was incredibly hostile towards us. On the other hand, I've met more than my share of people who call us "Shemale" or "tranny," not out of any hostility, but out of simply not knowing better. Again, labels aren't as important as the context that those labels are used in and what meaning you place on those labels.