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RE: White Privlige and Ignoring the Problem
January 18, 2014 at 11:29 am
(January 18, 2014 at 9:32 am)plaincents822 Wrote: I agree and disagree with Freeman, as much as I love his response to the question. I don't think racism ends when people no longer recognize that someone is a different color. I think it ends when people can recognize that someone else is a different color, and treat them no differently because of it.
It ends when skin colour difference is treated the same as hair or eye colour difference.
What is true is that the 'progressive' strategy of calling everyone racist and giving special privileges to minorities and lying about History only increases racism
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RE: White Privlige and Ignoring the Problem
January 18, 2014 at 12:04 pm
How long has racism been around and what are the chances of it ever going away?
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RE: White Privlige and Ignoring the Problem
January 18, 2014 at 1:34 pm
(January 18, 2014 at 12:04 pm)KUSA Wrote: How long has racism been around and what are the chances of it ever going away?
It's been around a while but it is a social construct, so I do believe it can "end." Obviously absolute zero racists is improbable, but I think it could be similar to the amount of people today that still believe the earth is flat. But it will be replaced by something else. We are inclined biologically to identify people that are different than us (kind of a clan, tribe, group thing) and treat them differently, but I don't think it will forever be racism.
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RE: White Privlige and Ignoring the Problem
January 18, 2014 at 4:35 pm
*sigh* I really REALLY don't want to watch this forum turn into another extension of Atheism+.
I'll be the first to admit, white privilege is a thing. It exists. I'm also forced to say, there are a lot of people, especially on the internet, who attach the word "privilege" onto the backs of other words as an excuse to be jerks.
So, to translate it into something I can get, it would be easy for me to cry "cis privilege" every time someone here disagrees with me. I hate using that term, though. I'd much rather explain what they said wrong and explain why it's wrong and I'd like to be able to do so in such a way that they can understand it and that most reasonable people can agree with (or, if not agree, at least understand). If I'm unable to do that, the problem is mine in that I simply don't understand the issue well enough myself.
So, my only issue with black privilege is that I've seen way too many people use it as an excuse to bully people online. I don't care how much privilege I have or how little I have, if I say something that makes sense, it makes sense. If I'm an asshole, I can be an asshole with lots of privilege or an asshole with no privilege.
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RE: White Privlige and Ignoring the Problem
January 18, 2014 at 5:14 pm
I highly doubt this forum will ever be like atheism+
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RE: White Privlige and Ignoring the Problem
January 18, 2014 at 5:25 pm
atheism plus what?
If I were to create self aware beings knowing fully what they would do in their lifetimes, I sure wouldn't create a HELL for the majority of them to live in infinitely! That's not Love, that's sadistic. Therefore a truly loving god does not exist!
Quote:The sin is against an infinite being (God) unforgiven infinitely, therefore the punishment is infinite.
Dead wrong. The actions of a finite being measured against an infinite one are infinitesimal and therefore merit infinitesimal punishment.
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I say again: No exceptions. Punishment should be equal to the crime, not in excess of it. As soon as the punishment is greater than the crime, the punisher is in the wrong.
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RE: White Privlige and Ignoring the Problem
January 18, 2014 at 5:28 pm
I don't really have a problem with the principles of Atheism+. It's what I've seen of their adherents I'm not liking.
My ignore list
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RE: White Privlige and Ignoring the Problem
January 18, 2014 at 5:47 pm
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(January 18, 2014 at 5:14 pm)Psykhronic Wrote: I highly doubt this forum will ever be like atheism+
I hope not. I've already had to deal with those types way too much. I know it's gotten to be the really popular way to act in a lot of online trans circles, which, in turn, leads me to have to constantly apologize for them, even though I'm not the one participating in their hateful antics.
And, yeah, the ideas themselves, those aren't bad ideas at all. But the way they express or execute those ideas, that's what makes them look terrible.
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RE: White Privlige and Ignoring the Problem
January 18, 2014 at 11:22 pm
(January 18, 2014 at 5:28 pm)Tea Earl Grey Hot Wrote: I don't really have a problem with the principles of Atheism+. It's what I've seen of their adherents I'm not liking.
They are all complete asshats and their politics stink.
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RE: White Privlige and Ignoring the Problem
January 19, 2014 at 6:30 am
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Everyone has privileges. Doesn't mean that they were dealt identical hands... and it wouldn't be much of a game if they were all dealt the same cards.
(January 17, 2014 at 12:57 pm)truthBtold Wrote: Black , white , green, brown.. its just a COLOR!!.. WTF! WE ALL CRAP SITTING DOWN..
I squat. You should try it.
(January 17, 2014 at 1:16 pm)Tiberius Wrote: (January 17, 2014 at 1:11 pm)EgoRaptor Wrote: But sometimes we take it too far, & see racism where there is none. You mean like yourself in that Ariel Sharon thread? Hmm?
RACIST!!!! 
... It's been a while, what?
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Where sometimes is heard a discouraging word
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