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RE: Who gets to decide when someone is lying?
February 4, 2014 at 10:05 am
(February 3, 2014 at 11:05 am)downbeatplumb Wrote: If you knowingly twist or alter things to fit your argument/view point then it is a kind of lie.
Just considering a potential hierarchy of abstractions, I would make a slight change and say that a lie is a kind of deception. Right or wrong I translated your statement to mean the opposite; deception is a kind of lie.
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RE: Who gets to decide when someone is lying?
February 4, 2014 at 12:50 pm
(January 29, 2014 at 12:20 pm)No_God Wrote:
Now you know how I felt when I posted that response.
Anyway, now that there's activity in this thread, anyone care to weigh in on my actual question re: circular logic in the OP?
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RE: Who gets to decide when someone is lying?
February 4, 2014 at 2:55 pm
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(February 3, 2014 at 7:53 am)Godschild Wrote: In a world of no absolutes how can one possibly lie, as it has been made clear here twisting things to fit your ideas are not lies, except when atheist claim Christians lie. Double standard.
GC
Well, when one claims absolutes like you do (or isn't your claim that your god is absolute?) then you don't have much to go on that. A lie its still a lie, even if you believe it.
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RE: Who gets to decide when someone is lying?
February 4, 2014 at 4:14 pm
(February 3, 2014 at 7:53 am)Godschild Wrote: In a world of no absolutes how can one possibly lie
GC, have you gone full presuppositionalist since I've been away?
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RE: Who gets to decide when someone is lying?
February 4, 2014 at 4:19 pm
Nah....he's still the same idiot he's always been.
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RE: Who gets to decide when someone is lying?
February 6, 2014 at 12:00 am
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(February 4, 2014 at 4:14 pm)DeistPaladin Wrote: (February 3, 2014 at 7:53 am)Godschild Wrote: In a world of no absolutes how can one possibly lie
GC, have you gone full presuppositionalist since I've been away?
No, it was a twist on things said previously.
GC
(February 4, 2014 at 9:13 am)whateverist Wrote: (February 3, 2014 at 7:53 am)Godschild Wrote: In a world of no absolutes how can one possibly lie, as it has been made clear here twisting things to fit your ideas are not lies, except when atheist claim Christians lie. Double standard.
GC
It isn't that hard. It is only surprising to you that the world continues to spin on its axis exactly as before in spite of our disbelief. But then, you've had your head filled with wool for sometime.
I know the world spins as it has always, because God in His word said it would right up to the end of time. You should search scripture to understand what Christians know.
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RE: Who gets to decide when someone is lying?
February 6, 2014 at 12:19 am
(February 6, 2014 at 12:00 am)Godschild Wrote: I know the world spins as it has always, because God in His word said it would right up to the end of time. You should search scripture to understand what Christians know.
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RE: Who gets to decide when someone is lying?
February 6, 2014 at 12:51 am
Shit now you ruined it for me. Oh well. Too bad though. Some think it is the greatest story ever told. HAHAHAHAHAHA
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RE: Who gets to decide when someone is lying?
February 6, 2014 at 1:01 am
(This post was last modified: February 6, 2014 at 1:06 am by Ryantology.)
Where in the Bible does it say that God can't or won't lie?
I mean, if you have faith in what he says, doesn't that imply that you have faith that he won't mislead you?
If he can, or would, lie, then how can you justify having faith in anything he says? After all, there are no consequences for a god's lies.
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I never let him get away with it. In fact, I was downright annoying in my insistence that he not get away with it. That's why the stupid christpussy has me blocked now.
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RE: Who gets to decide when someone is lying?
February 6, 2014 at 1:19 am
(February 6, 2014 at 12:00 am)Godschild Wrote: I know the world spins as it has always, because God in His word said it would right up to the end of time. You should search scripture to understand what Christians know.
GC
Well, we know that's not true, because in a couple billion years the sun's gonna toast the earth right out of existence, and time will continue on just as before.
Wow, another thing god was wrong about.
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