RE: Atheists, George Zimmerman and the burden of proof
February 4, 2014 at 4:50 pm
(This post was last modified: February 4, 2014 at 4:57 pm by là bạn điên.)
(February 4, 2014 at 4:16 pm)Minimalist Wrote: Law is a bitch but let's not pretend it has anything to do with justice.
A man with a gun tracked a kid with a bag of Skittles. He was told to stop and disregarded the instructions of the police. The kid ended up dead.
The dead kid is not able to tell his side of the story.
Just a week or so ago two cops were acquitted after beating a man to death while he was laying on the ground.
Don't talk to me about fucking justice, huh?
I think this pretty much proves my point. As predicted Minimalist defers purely to his extremist ideology.
lets have a look at his argument:
Quote:A man with a gun tracked a kid with a bag of Skittles.
Look at the loaded terms a man with a gun
trackeda
kid with a bag of
Skittles
Even though the 'kid' was 17 and taller and fitter than Zimmerman he is attempting to portray him as a child just doing a childish thing (ie having candy.)
Quote: And tracked
'. Not just followed but 'tracked'.
What he is really saying is that an armed man followed a youth. Everything else is just pointless cant
Next we have
Quote:He was told to stop and disregarded the instructions of the police.
these two were just plain lies. He was not 'told to stop'. for a start police despatchers have no authority whatsoever to give any such orders and secondly he was told that the despatcher did not NEED him to do that. he was not even advised not to proceeed let alone ordered not to pursue. The police gave him no instructions that he disregarded.
The phrases that dispatchers use are not ambigous. if we look closely at the despatcher words she said "we do not require you to do this".
Telling someone not to do this would be " Please desist from following"
Advising someone not to follow would be" We strongly advise you not to follow"
Neither of those two terms, or their equivalent were used. the dispatcher merely gave a disclaimer saying that following Martin was not a requirement essentially so the dispatcher or her employers could not be later held liable by Zimmerman for damages as a result of his being attacked
Quote:The kid ended up dead.
The youth certainly did end up dead. this is the first actually accurate thing he has said but he hasn't exactly demonstrated why obviously because he has no evidence.
Quote:The dead kid is not able to tell his side of the story.
This is normally the case in the investigation of Killings.
Quote:Just a week or so ago two cops were acquitted after beating a man to death while he was laying on the ground.
Which has nothing to do with this case but goes further to prove a mindset. ie that proof isn;t really relevant and that its just a war between two sides so a cop beating a homeless person to death ( I have no idea what this is about) somehow is evidence that Zimmerman is guilty of murder.
Quote:Don't talk to me about fucking justice, huh?
Since Minimalist is incapable of any rational argument whatsoever I have little interest in talking to him about justice. this is about Burden of proof. Something the likes of Minimalist have a great difficulty with understanding.
Thank you Minimalist for confirming my prediction and providing such an enlightening view of a died in the wool blinkered ideologue. A 3rd party would be quite justified in believing that it was quite likley that you are were my sockpuppet that I had invented just to illustrate my point.
