RE: Slavery (on Thursdays)
February 28, 2014 at 2:18 pm
(This post was last modified: February 28, 2014 at 2:19 pm by max-greece.)
Kuusi palaa, ja on viimeinen kerta kun annan vaimoni laittaa jouluvalot!
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RE: Slavery (on Thursdays)
February 28, 2014 at 2:18 pm
(This post was last modified: February 28, 2014 at 2:19 pm by max-greece.)
Kuusi palaa, ja on viimeinen kerta kun annan vaimoni laittaa jouluvalot!
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March 1, 2014 at 5:38 pm
(This post was last modified: March 1, 2014 at 5:40 pm by Huggy Bear.)
(March 1, 2014 at 12:57 pm)Bad Wolf Wrote: Because the slave owner is taking advantage of the slaves poor fortune. Why could he not pay them, you know, how everyone does today? A job? Where you aren't treated as property. Making people slaves was not the only fucking option. (February 28, 2014 at 2:22 pm)Huggy74 Wrote: Leviticus 25 Bad Wolf Wrote:Don't play semantics with me. They were slaves. They were treated as property, they were not paid, and they could not leave whenever they wanted. The fact that you are appealing to word games is pathetic. How is a hired servant vs slave semantics? You do realize hired means paid right? So then why would you insist that they weren't paid when I clearly showed you an instance were they were. You can't be paid and be a "slave" now can you. Lol "semantics" I don't think that word means what you think it means. smh. Also I explained the word "slave" only appears one time in the KJV (and not in relation to humans) of the Bible which was published in 1611, the NLT version was published in 1996 (lol) and is not an accurate translation. I don't know anyone that uses the NLT translation except "athiest", because apparently it fits your agenda. If the words "servant" and "slave" are semantics, then you shouldn't mind posting from the KJV. (March 1, 2014 at 12:57 pm)Bad Wolf Wrote: Its irrelevant how much they were paid. They were servants, not slaves. They were not bought and passed around as property, they were not allowed to be beaten, and they could leave and quit their job whenever they want. Give up, you are just plain wrong on this I thought servant and slave was "semantics"? Quote:"Christians who are slaves should give their masters full respect so that the name of God and his teaching will not be shamed. If your master is a Christian, that is no excuse for being disrespectful. You should work all the harder because you are helping another believer by your efforts. Teach these truths, Timothy, and encourage everyone to obey them. (1 Timothy 6:1-2 NLT)" The religion of sheep.
(March 1, 2014 at 5:47 pm)Minimalist Wrote: "Christians who are slaves should give their masters full respect so that the name of God and his teaching will not be shamed. If your master is a Christian, that is no excuse for being disrespectful. You should work all the harder because you are helping another believer by your efforts. Teach these truths, Timothy, and encourage everyone to obey them. (1 Timothy 6:1-2 NLT)" Already covered this, you are quoting from the NLT version of the bible which is not an accurate translation, it is translated purely for easier reading. here is the KJV of that same passage. 1 Timothy 6 1 Let as many servants as are under the yoke count their own masters worthy of all honour, that the name of God and his doctrine be not blasphemed. 2 And they that have believing masters, let them not despise them, because they are brethren; but rather do them service, because they are faithful and beloved, partakers of the benefit. These things teach and exhort. as you can see, the word "christian" isn't there, neither is "slave", nor the name "Timothy". Quote:The religion of sheep. I agree. John 10 26 But ye believe not, because ye are not of my sheep, as I said unto you. 27 My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me: (March 1, 2014 at 6:10 pm)Huggy74 Wrote:(March 1, 2014 at 5:47 pm)Minimalist Wrote: "Christians who are slaves should give their masters full respect so that the name of God and his teaching will not be shamed. If your master is a Christian, that is no excuse for being disrespectful. You should work all the harder because you are helping another believer by your efforts. Teach these truths, Timothy, and encourage everyone to obey them. (1 Timothy 6:1-2 NLT)" How do u know what translation/ bible is to be the right one? (March 1, 2014 at 5:38 pm)Huggy74 Wrote: How is a hired servant vs slave semantics? You do realize hired means paid right? So then why would you insist that they weren't paid when I clearly showed you an instance were they were. You can't be paid and be a "slave" now can you. You do understand that merely calling them servants doesn't actually make them servants if they weren't treated like them, right? Propagandists do this all the time, calling something one thing while acting as if it were another. That's why what you're doing is semantics; you're happy to call these people servants, and ignore the instructions for how they are to be treated, which includes beating them, passing them down as property- you can't do that with a servant - and buying them.It's a profoundly dishonest tactic, but then again, dishonesty and doublespeak is all you have.
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays)
March 2, 2014 at 1:31 am
(This post was last modified: March 2, 2014 at 1:31 am by Rahul.)
(March 2, 2014 at 1:26 am)Esquilax Wrote: You do understand that merely calling them servants doesn't actually make them servants if they weren't treated like them, right? Propagandists do this all the time, calling something one thing while acting as if it were another. That's why what you're doing is semantics; you're happy to call these people servants, and ignore the instructions for how they are to be treated, which includes beating them, passing them down as property- you can't do that with a servant True. If you visited the Southern States of the US in the years leading up to the US Civil War you would hear the word "slave" hardly ever used, even though slaves were everywhere. Everyone, especially slave owners, would call them "servants". Very, very rarely would they be referred to as "slaves". And never in polite company. Or to outsiders.
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(March 2, 2014 at 1:31 am)Rahul Wrote: True. If you visited the Southern States of the US in the years leading up to the US Civil War you would hear the word "slave" hardly ever used, even though slaves were everywhere.I thought they were called "niggers." Did Django Unchained lie to me? |
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