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RE: Are we scientists?
February 28, 2014 at 8:59 am
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(February 28, 2014 at 8:04 am)JesusLover1 Wrote: My dad says it takes more evidence to [...] believe in evolution
Well, funny that there is copious amounts of evidence for evolution. What do you not understand about it? My favorite field of science is biology, so go ahead, ask, if you want to understand.
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RE: Are we scientists?
February 28, 2014 at 9:05 am
Yeah JL, you have no idea how many people here will be happy to show you literal pictures of evolution happening. 
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RE: Are we scientists?
February 28, 2014 at 9:10 am
(February 28, 2014 at 9:05 am)Esquilax Wrote: Yeah JL, you have no idea how many people here will be happy to show you literal pictures of evolution happening.
Wow, I'd like to see that. Please show!
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RE: Are we scientists?
February 28, 2014 at 9:21 am
(February 28, 2014 at 9:10 am)JesusLover1 Wrote: Wow, I'd like to see that. Please show!
Can do!
So, in 2005, a Russian research team started breeding wild silver foxes, to make them more friendly around people. They started out with this:
![[Image: 58820261-t1333silverfoxfaceon.jpg]](https://images.weserv.nl/?url=truelaurels.files.wordpress.com%2F2011%2F11%2F58820261-t1333silverfoxfaceon.jpg)
You know, foxes. Pretty standard. Looks kinda evil. What they ended up with, after only a few generations, looked like a freaking puppy.
![[Image: 6a010535647bf3970b011570a499b2970b-pi]](https://images.weserv.nl/?url=www.zooborns.com%2F.a%2F6a010535647bf3970b011570a499b2970b-pi)
All they had to do was selectively breed the animals based on which ones were most passive and friendly toward people, and very quickly, their physiology began to change too. For the record, that's all evolution is; genetic change over successive generations. Nothing about dogs giving birth to cats, or anything; if that's what you thought it was, you were taught wrong. Evolution is simply the mechanism by which organisms change over time. It's the reason you don't look exactly like your parents, for instance.
And that's just one example, mind. I picked a fairly easy, obvious one, but if you like there's plenty more that can be discussed. I just like foxes.
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RE: Are we scientists?
February 28, 2014 at 9:25 am
So are you enjoying your trolling JL?
Either that of you are one very stupid product of american education system.
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RE: Are we scientists?
February 28, 2014 at 9:25 am
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(February 28, 2014 at 7:51 am)JesusLover1 Wrote: I don't understand how the world works scientifically, neither do probably any of you all that well, we aren't scientists! So I'm gonna trust that 31.59% of people are right (Christians) then 2.01% of people are right (Atheists)
Plus where I live over 90% of people are Christians.
I'm not sure why I'm responding to such obvious trolling, but here goes: I have a degree and Masters in physics. I would claim to know far less about the origins on the universe and workings of nature than you do, yet have studied it for many years. This is probably because I wasn't taught things as fact where there is no evidence to support them. But fuck it, don't bother with all that reading, learning and experimenting. Just read a few sentences in the bible and you'll have far more knowledge about the origins of the universe than any scientist does. Large Hadron Collider, why bother? Just read Genesis instead you stupid scientists.
From your data, nearly 70% of people don't believe Christianity is true. Therefore by your logic we shouldn't believe this either?
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RE: Are we scientists?
February 28, 2014 at 9:32 am
Behold the peppered moth. It used to be a light colored moth, since the species prefer to sleep on birch tree trunks. But thanks to pollution coloring the the environment darker, predators could more easily spot the lightly colored ones. The minority of the moths were dark, but they were usually the first ones to get eaten first, since the stood out against white trees. Now however, the light moths get eaten first, giving the darker ones a chance to breed, so the gene that codes for the excessive melanin is a more successful one, and nowadays the darker moths are more successful in surviving than their light counterparts.
![[Image: peppered_moth_203_203x152.jpg]](https://images.weserv.nl/?url=www.bbc.co.uk%2Fmanchester%2Fcontent%2Fimages%2F2008%2F06%2F04%2Fpeppered_moth_203_203x152.jpg)
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RE: Are we scientists?
February 28, 2014 at 9:35 am
Jeez, why did I pick that specific picture of the wild fox? It looks so goddamn evil every time I scroll past it!
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RE: Are we scientists?
February 28, 2014 at 9:38 am
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RE: Are we scientists?
February 28, 2014 at 9:40 am
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(February 28, 2014 at 9:35 am)Esquilax Wrote: Jeez, why did I pick that specific picture of the wild fox? It looks so goddamn evil every time I scroll past it!
I don't think so, it just looks focused. Now this is a menacing fox:
![[Image: p195.jpg]](https://images.weserv.nl/?url=www.photography-prints.co.uk%2Fimages%2Fprints%2Fp195.jpg)
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