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Ok I admit it
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 (March 5, 2014 at 7:02 am)JesusLover1 Wrote:(March 5, 2014 at 7:01 am)jesus_wept Wrote: Yet he allegedly speaks to your father, amongst many others... do you see the contradiction here? So free will is needed to believe in him when the argument suits you and it's not needed when it doesn't? How convenient.  (March 5, 2014 at 7:10 am)jesus_wept Wrote:(March 5, 2014 at 7:02 am)JesusLover1 Wrote: That's because he allowed him into his heart by believing and having faith in him. Huh? My dad had the free will and choose to believe in him, that's why God started speaking to him.  (March 5, 2014 at 7:07 am)JesusLover1 Wrote: Well I didn't have a deep enough relationship with him. So, let me ask you: do you think there's ever going to be a point where that excuse stops working, no matter how much faith you have? If you can never prove it wrong, how can it possibly be an honest excuse? 
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I dunno, this whole religious realm is very frusturating because there's no straight answers, there's always an answer in another realm they turn to when their current argument has been lost. It is so mind-boggling, every religion states these un-falsifiable statements but obviously they can't all be right.
(March 5, 2014 at 7:12 am)JesusLover1 Wrote:(March 5, 2014 at 7:10 am)jesus_wept Wrote: So free will is needed to believe in him when the argument suits you and it's not needed when it doesn't? How convenient. Does your dad still have the free will not to believe? (March 5, 2014 at 7:26 am)JesusLover1 Wrote: I dunno, this whole religious realm is very frusturating because there's no straight answers, there's always an answer in another realm they turn to when their current argument has been lost. It is so mind-boggling, every religion states these un-falsifiable statements but obviously they can't all be right. Here's the thing: you don't really have any reason to believe that these other realms exist, do you? These excuses the religious are giving you are literally relying on a fantasy realm in order to function.
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Want to see more of my writing? Check out my (safe for work!) site, Unprotected Sects!  (March 5, 2014 at 7:26 am)JesusLover1 Wrote: I dunno, this whole religious realm is very frusturating because there's no straight answers, there's always an answer in another realm they turn to when their current argument has been lost. It is so mind-boggling, every religion states these un-falsifiable statements but obviously they can't all be right. They did have quite a few centuries to refine the whole apologetics.... not to mention that your parent's religion is not the first kid on the block, so there were some millenia perfecting that concept prior to christianity.  (March 5, 2014 at 7:26 am)JesusLover1 Wrote: I dunno, this whole religious realm is very frusturating because there's no straight answers,Which is why so many of us realized what a crock it is and left it behind.
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