atheism to be illegal in the E. U.

[nintendo048]

I doubt this would pass in Arizona, let alone the EU.

with the way things are in England sweden france germany holland yes it may very well pass

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I doubt this would pass in Arizona, let alone the EU.

with the way things are in England sweden france germany holland yes it may very well pass

i think it would pass in the us or anywhere else here for another simple reason. because nobody thinks that it will any sitiuations like the one were in are occuring. like sitting on the internet debating whether or not a bill the restricts our speech will be passed. And while we are playing with our thumbs it will be passed. The rulers of our societies will have no problems thusting such an edict on the people

[Tiberius]

Putting the whole "whether it would pass" conversation aside for a moment, I call bullshit on the title of this thread.

Nothing in the bill would make atheism illegal. Stop assuming that all atheists are anti-theists or spend their time ranting and insulting religion. Most of us are quite content with just not believing in God and having the occasional conversation about beliefs.

Additionally, this bill says it will effectively ban discriminatory speech aimed at "groups" of people. Well, if Christians can count as a group, arguably atheists could too. The EU likely has more atheists than any other continent; it would be absurd to think that a law making their beliefs illegal would even get properly discussed.

[Kayenneh]

I call bullshit on the title of this thread.

What Tibs, you're not convinced by the fine source blog post that Jimmy has provided?

[Tiberius]

Actually, I agree with most of what the article says. I'm a supporter of A Voice for Men. Whilst I want equal rights for both women and men, I will not stand for an attack on freedom of speech. Banning actual discrimination is one thing. Banning insulting language (or any type of language) is fucking ridiculous.

My disagreement was with the OPs interpretation of the law.

[Kayenneh]

Actually, I agree with most of what the article says. I'm a supporter of A Voice for Men. Whilst I want equal rights for both women and men, I will not stand for an attack on freedom of speech. Banning actual discrimination is one thing. Banning insulting language (or any type of language) is fucking ridiculous.

My disagreement was with the OPs interpretation of the law.

Fair enough.

[nintendo048]

Actually, I agree with most of what the article says. I'm a supporter of A Voice for Men. Whilst I want equal rights for both women and men, I will not stand for an attack on freedom of speech. Banning actual discrimination is one thing. Banning insulting language (or any type of language) is fucking ridiculous.

My disagreement was with the OPs interpretation of the law.

fine you agree with most of what is in the article then why can you not see that this will sensor atheism

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Actually, I agree with most of what the article says. I'm a supporter of A Voice for Men. Whilst I want equal rights for both women and men, I will not stand for an attack on freedom of speech. Banning actual discrimination is one thing. Banning insulting language (or any type of language) is fucking ridiculous.

My disagreement was with the OPs interpretation of the law.

yes but what about the sale of book by authors such as dawkins and hitchins you know in the eu antiislamic films and books are banned in schools and on the shelves

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Actually, I agree with most of what the article says. I'm a supporter of A Voice for Men. Whilst I want equal rights for both women and men, I will not stand for an attack on freedom of speech. Banning actual discrimination is one thing. Banning insulting language (or any type of language) is fucking ridiculous.

My disagreement was with the OPs interpretation of the law.

also secular television programs may be banned idk

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Actually, I agree with most of what the article says. I'm a supporter of A Voice for Men. Whilst I want equal rights for both women and men, I will not stand for an attack on freedom of speech. Banning actual discrimination is one thing. Banning insulting language (or any type of language) is fucking ridiculous.

My disagreement was with the OPs interpretation of the law.

also websites like this could be sensored for promoting hate speech. This does not sound like science fiction to me

[xpastor]

yes but what about the sale of book by authors such as dawkins and hitchins you know in the eu antiislamic films and books are banned in schools and on the shelves

You really do not know a thing about Europe or the EU.

Denmark was the home of the famous Mohammed cartoons, and the Danes are very strong on freedom of the press.

France passed a law against wearing any face covering in public, including the niqab or the burqa. Earlier France brought in a law against displaying any religious symbols in public schools.

Holland produced a rather famous pro-feminist, anti-Islamic film called Submission.

[nintendo048]

yes but what about the sale of book by authors such as dawkins and hitchins you know in the eu antiislamic films and books are banned in schools and on the shelves

You really do not know a thing about Europe or the EU.

Denmark was the home of the famous Mohammed cartoons, and the Danes are very strong on freedom of the press.

France passed a law against wearing any face covering in public, including the niqab or the burqa. Earlier France brought in a law against displaying any religious symbols in public schools.

Holland produced a rather famous pro-feminist, anti-Islamic film called Submission.

in holland a man was killed for making an anti islamic film

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yes but what about the sale of book by authors such as dawkins and hitchins you know in the eu antiislamic films and books are banned in schools and on the shelves

You really do not know a thing about Europe or the EU.

Denmark was the home of the famous Mohammed cartoons, and the Danes are very strong on freedom of the press.

France passed a law against wearing any face covering in public, including the niqab or the burqa. Earlier France brought in a law against displaying any religious symbols in public schools.

Holland produced a rather famous pro-feminist, anti-Islamic film called Submission.

yes but with the passage of the bill all that will change

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yes but what about the sale of book by authors such as dawkins and hitchins you know in the eu antiislamic films and books are banned in schools and on the shelves

You really do not know a thing about Europe or the EU.

Denmark was the home of the famous Mohammed cartoons, and the Danes are very strong on freedom of the press.

France passed a law against wearing any face covering in public, including the niqab or the burqa. Earlier France brought in a law against displaying any religious symbols in public schools.

Holland produced a rather famous pro-feminist, anti-Islamic film called Submission.

speaking of feminism. Leftists,feminists, and minority activists blame white males and western civilization for the opresssion of women homosexuals and minorities. this is claiming that slavery for example is a crime that only the white man is capable of atoning for. Also to claim that women carry a burden that men do not due to child birth is saying that all of the suffering of blacks, native americans, and hispanics, were caused by men that only white women were capable of producing. Also I would like to point out to all of those advocates of multiculturalism, equal oppurtunity education, and racial intermarridge. simply by standing for these things you are saying that you believe that black culture is inferior and that the white man NEEDED TO ERASE IT AND REPLACE IT WITH CHRISTIANITY because what else would he practice?
do white men or women that marry blacks care about reconstructing traditional african culture? of course on they don't give a damn what they do care about is sending that child off to play sports and attend a good school. Why are these two examples important because 1 in the south blacks were not allowed to read and for awhile after the civil war not allowed to recieve an education. 2. blacks then protested for the right to participate in the same professional sports as whites. So I ask all of the proponets of thisi ideology in what way the preservation or reconstruction of traditional black culture consist if they are being compensated with an education and participation in sports designed by whites ? so to everyone that identifies themselves as left on this channel fuck you.Also univsersity texbooks state that islam expanded through trade. Thus, the eu and the us wish to make hispanics and arabs nonviolentr through gun control and government sponsored education assistance. All they care about is making these people into a responsible father, making they climb the corporate ladder ect. do they have any respect for mexican or arab culture. Well I think I just anwsered your question.

allow me to quote ted kazayniski. "Religion, nowadays either is used as
cheap and transparent support for narrow, short-sighted
selfishness (some conservatives use it this way), or even is
cynically exploited to make easy money (by many evangelists),
or has degenerated into crude irrationalism (fundamentalist
protestant sects, “cults”), or is simply stagnant
(Catholicism, main-line Protestantism). The nearest thing
to a strong, widespread, dynamic religion that the West
has seen in recent times has been the quasi-religion of leftism,
but leftism today is fragmented and has no clear,
unified, inspiring goal."

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yes but what about the sale of book by authors such as dawkins and hitchins you know in the eu antiislamic films and books are banned in schools and on the shelves

You really do not know a thing about Europe or the EU.

Denmark was the home of the famous Mohammed cartoons, and the Danes are very strong on freedom of the press.

France passed a law against wearing any face covering in public, including the niqab or the burqa. Earlier France brought in a law against displaying any religious symbols in public schools.

Holland produced a rather famous pro-feminist, anti-Islamic film called Submission.

you need to stop seeing what im saying as a rant against feminism and take seriously the fact that atheism may be interpreted as hate speech

[Tiberius]

fine you agree with most of what is in the article then why can you not see that this will sensor atheism

You can't "censor" atheism. Atheism is an idea; a lack of belief. It exists whether governments make laws about it or not.

What you can do is censor atheists themselves; that is, prevent them from spreading atheism in public. However, that is not what is happening here. Nothing in the idea of atheism is inherently anti-religious. You can be an atheist without breaking this law.

yes but what about the sale of book by authors such as dawkins and hitchins you know in the eu antiislamic films and books are banned in schools and on the shelves

None of those things are making atheism illegal, which is what you claimed in the title.

also secular television programs may be banned idk

Go look up the word "secular" and you'll know why this claim is bullshit as well. Secularism is the separation of church and state. Nothing to do with atheism, nothing to do with insulting religion or religious groups.

also websites like this could be sensored for promoting hate speech. This does not sound like science fiction to me

We don't promote hate speech. We don't ban it, but that's because the community supports freedom of speech. If the site was threatened by any law that restricted freedom of speech, we would simply move the server to the US.

[nintendo048]

fine you agree with most of what is in the article then why can you not see that this will sensor atheism

You can't "censor" atheism. Atheism is an idea; a lack of belief. It exists whether governments make laws about it or not.

What you can do is censor atheists themselves; that is, prevent them from spreading atheism in public. However, that is not what is happening here. Nothing in the idea of atheism is inherently anti-religious. You can be an atheist without breaking this law. You can

yes but what about the sale of book by authors such as dawkins and hitchins you know in the eu antiislamic films and books are banned in schools and on the shelves

None of those things are making atheism illegal, which is what you claimed in the title.

also secular television programs may be banned idk

Go look up the word "secular" and you'll know why this claim is bullshit as well. Secularism is the separation of church and state. Nothing to do with atheism, nothing to do with insulting religion or religious groups.

also websites like this could be sensored for promoting hate speech. This does not sound like science fiction to me

We don't promote hate speech. We don't ban it, but that's because the community supports freedom of speech. If the site was threatened by any law that restricted freedom of speech, we would simply move the server to the US.

mabey so but secular may be interpreted as an agressive form of speech towards religion. Also here in the us most people see the founding fathers as religious people not deists or atheists. So it could happen

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fine you agree with most of what is in the article then why can you not see that this will sensor atheism

You can't "censor" atheism. Atheism is an idea; a lack of belief. It exists whether governments make laws about it or not.

What you can do is censor atheists themselves; that is, prevent them from spreading atheism in public. However, that is not what is happening here. Nothing in the idea of atheism is inherently anti-religious. You can be an atheist without breaking this law. You can

yes but what about the sale of book by authors such as dawkins and hitchins you know in the eu antiislamic films and books are banned in schools and on the shelves

None of those things are making atheism illegal, which is what you claimed in the title.

also secular television programs may be banned idk

Go look up the word "secular" and you'll know why this claim is bullshit as well. Secularism is the separation of church and state. Nothing to do with atheism, nothing to do with insulting religion or religious groups.

also websites like this could be sensored for promoting hate speech. This does not sound like science fiction to me

We don't promote hate speech. We don't ban it, but that's because the community supports freedom of speech. If the site was threatened by any law that restricted freedom of speech, we would simply move the server to the US.

the founders of america had a dream of free and equal people unopressed by religion and that vision has been obliterated