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Atoms energy expansion
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RE: Atoms energy expansion
March 9, 2014 at 1:56 am
(This post was last modified: March 9, 2014 at 1:58 am by Alex K.)
The Energy needed to start the fusion reaction comes from the gravitational collapse. Beyond that, stars actually gain energy from the fusion process, furher indicating that getting the atoms even closer together releases.further energy. So both forms of energy needed by stars to convert to other forms of energy (and in the end, heavy elements where one needs to stick energy in to form them) seem to be present because the stuff in the universe is somewhat dilute rather than cobbled together with maximal density. This I think has to do with the expansion.
I think your question has two parts: 1.why is there energy 2. Why was the universe in low entropy state such that the energy is able to actually do something concerning number 2,There are people studying specifically the "initial conditions" (though it is a bit of a misnomer) which lead to this rapid expansion with a hot gas. I'm no expert , but I don't think anyone can know with good certainty why this is the way things are. One thing to consider concerning number 1:if the universe is flat, it has in some formulations zero total energy, and the energy we observe in it is just borrowed from the geometry, which counts as negative energy. But this is very subtle. RE: Atoms energy expansion
March 9, 2014 at 2:18 am
(This post was last modified: March 9, 2014 at 2:24 am by rsb.)
RE: Atoms energy expansion
March 9, 2014 at 3:19 am
(This post was last modified: March 9, 2014 at 3:22 am by Alex K.)
Quote:There is no doubt that the most advanced life on earth are bacteria and yeast and mold. We are not even close.rsb, you give me headaches. But then, you and I are not cast in the same mold... But I agree, beer rules. RE: Atoms energy expansion
March 9, 2014 at 3:53 am
(This post was last modified: March 9, 2014 at 4:48 am by Marsellus Wallace.)
After a cup of coffee and meditating for awhile
, I came up with this...My only valid speculation is that our expansion is giving more space for atoms to be and that somehow gives the atoms more energy to have. More explanation : Its the matter and space together affecting this....I give you an example : Would a bully in school have more power over 5 kids or over 50 kids ? The less kids around the bully, the more powerful the bully is . I think thats where the extra energy is coming from, atoms having more space and less atoms around it. and so when the universe expands the the atoms' inner hidden energy counts for more(like when less ppl have gold , gold prices goes up). What do you think ?
No as far back as we can see we see all the atoms and can put them into a model for fusion and fission and pretty much track it forward. The math as we do this in more detail will be interesting.
Before that, no idea, you have to accept the idea of big bangs or singularities or some sort of boundary problem before you can get to a big bang, and I for one have no faith or belief in the big bang. I would very much like to observe more. (March 9, 2014 at 3:57 am)rsb Wrote: No as far back as we can see we see all the atoms and can put them into a model for fusion and fission and pretty much track it forward. The math as we do this in more detail will be interesting. Now when you say you have no belief in the big bang, what exactly do you mean by big bang? Do you fail to believe that the universe was once dense and hot, or do you merely have a problem with the role of the initial singularity and whether it is real or not? |
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, I came up with this...