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you send yourselves to hell
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you send yourselves to hell
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HaJgLBoB_Pw
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Through power, I gain victory.
Through victory, my chains are broken."
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#2
RE: you send yourselves to hell
The video is right. I make a prediction that someone is going to make the whole 'you can't judge god as you would judge a human' argument
'The more I learn about people the more I like my dog'- Mark Twain

'You can have all the faith you want in spirits, and the afterlife, and heaven and hell, but when it comes to this world, don't be an idiot. Cause you can tell me you put your faith in God to put you through the day, but when it comes time to cross the road, I know you look both ways.' - Dr House

“Young earth creationism is essentially the position that all of modern science, 90% of living scientists and 98% of living biologists, all major university biology departments, every major science journal, the American Academy of Sciences, and every major science organization in the world, are all wrong regarding the origins and development of life….but one particular tribe of uneducated, bronze aged, goat herders got it exactly right.” - Chuck Easttom

"If my good friend Doctor Gasparri speaks badly of my mother, he can expect to get punched.....You cannot provoke. You cannot insult the faith of others. You cannot make fun of the faith of others. There is a limit." - Pope Francis on freedom of speech
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RE: you send yourselves to hell
Nice rack for a cartoon.
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RE: you send yourselves to hell
(March 11, 2014 at 2:15 pm)truthBtold Wrote: Nice rack for a cartoon.

An interviewer once asked Al Capp, who wrote the comic strip "Li'l Abner" if he would ever draw a non-voluptuous woman.

"Not as long as I have a choice," was Capp's answer.
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#5
RE: you send yourselves to hell
Look. Those extortionists didn't kill the shopkeeper and burn down his shop. He chose for that to happen for not paying protection money.

I've said before that this is just straight up blackmail. You can't say you're saving someone if you're the one who created the scenario that they need to be saved from. We're born into sin because he cursed us. We're in danger of hellfire because he made the fiery lake. This isn't justice. It isn't even sane.
Poe's Law: "Without a winking smiley or other blatant display of humor, it is impossible to create a parody of Fundamentalism that SOMEONE won't mistake for the real thing."

10 Christ-like figures that predate Jesus. Link shortened to Chris ate Jesus for some reason...
http://listverse.com/2009/04/13/10-chris...ate-jesus/

Good video to watch, if you want to know how common the Jesus story really is.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=88GTUXvp-50

A list of biblical contradictions from the infallible word of Yahweh.
http://infidels.org/library/modern/jim_m...tions.html

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#6
RE: you send yourselves to hell
Whenever you're confronted with this argument, with a breach of logic of that magnitude, it pays to go ridiculous with your response:

"I'm not sending myself to hell! You're sending me there! Stop it, you monster!"

Really stick with it. Follow that smug asshole around, make a scene out of it. Make him as embarrassed as he should be, for making that argument. Tongue
"YOU take the hard look in the mirror. You are everything that is wrong with this world. The only thing important to you, is you." - ronedee

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#7
RE: you send yourselves to hell
Actually if the person making the argument is weaker than you, just start threatening him or her and get yourself some money. This free will stuff is starting to sound nice.

There's this giant double standard with religion. It's only ok to do horrible things if you're the creator of all things.
Poe's Law: "Without a winking smiley or other blatant display of humor, it is impossible to create a parody of Fundamentalism that SOMEONE won't mistake for the real thing."

10 Christ-like figures that predate Jesus. Link shortened to Chris ate Jesus for some reason...
http://listverse.com/2009/04/13/10-chris...ate-jesus/

Good video to watch, if you want to know how common the Jesus story really is.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=88GTUXvp-50

A list of biblical contradictions from the infallible word of Yahweh.
http://infidels.org/library/modern/jim_m...tions.html

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RE: you send yourselves to hell
Well if we're sending ourselves to hell, then why can't God do anything to stop it? I mean, being omnipotent and all, he could abolish hell from existence and allow us all to join him in Heaven, or else just have our existence snuffed out forever upon death. If he won't stop the eternal torment, then he's a monster.

It's even worse when, according to Christian doctrine, God is the one who created hell and set up the system rigged to send anyone there unless they follow one of many very strict set of rules, and doesn't even tell us which one is the right list.
Christian apologetics is the art of rolling a dog turd in sugar and selling it as a donut.
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RE: you send yourselves to hell
In my garden I have some cats that I bred. A while back I realised they were all naughty cats and I'd have to torture them all. So I inpregnanted a female cat. The baby cat, who was also me but not me, told the other cats to behave so I didn't have to torture them all. After all I love my cats. I had actually drowned almost all of them all a few years before that, but that was a waste of time, stupid cats!

Now many years later some of the cats don't believe that I really did all that, so I send them off for torture. They do it to themselves as I did warn them, though I can't make it all too obvious otherwise their free will may be violated.

It was the best and most logical solution to the problem of naughty cats that I could think of.


Disclaimer to Christians - I know this is a really plausible story, but it didn't actually happen so don't phone the authorities (not that you should as it was very moral to do all of this).
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#10
RE: you send yourselves to hell
Hold on you guys,
Is hell even a bad place? i understand that, according to many monotheistic religions, this hell is the place where non-believers go. Im going to assume that hell exists temporarily.

Imagine all the kick-ass intellectuals that are down there! In my opinion, i'd rather spend eternity with Einstein, Lennon, and Lucretius than with Billy Graham or Saint Augustine.

Plus, even if hell was on fire when they got there, I think that after sending so many brilliant scientists there, they'd figure out how to put the fire out.
In this way, Hell may be a Utopia. Lol
When bible-beaters threaten me with hell, this is all i can think of
"I see now that the circumstances of one's birth are irrelevant; It is what you do with the gift of life that determines who you are"-Mewtwo
“We are all atheists about most of the gods that humanity has ever believed in. Some of us just go one god further.” - Richard Dawkins, The God Delusion
“Those who can make you believe absurdities, can make you commit atrocities.”- Voltaire
“Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able? Then he is not omnipotent.
Is he able, but not willing? Then he is malevolent.
Is he both able and willing? Then whence cometh evil?
Is he neither able nor willing? Then why call him God?” -Epicurus
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