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RE: Atheist Nate Phelps, on his father Fred Phelps
March 21, 2014 at 8:03 pm
(March 21, 2014 at 5:36 pm)Deidre32 Wrote: You're right, tor.
While I wasn't a 'hateful' Christian type, I can't help but think how much time I've wasted. I can't get those years back, everyone.  It's hard knowing that, sometimes. Yes, indeed. I wasted a lot of time on it, and also money putting myself through 3 years of seminary and working a few more years for low pay as pastor of a little church. Then I never got back into professional work; it was all scrabbling for manual labor.
I'm retired now (age 73) and mostly I'm comfortable enough with Canada Pension, but I sometimes think if it weren't for that stupid detour into the ministry, I could afford to travel to Europe.
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RE: Atheist Nate Phelps, on his father Fred Phelps
March 22, 2014 at 1:28 pm
Gee, what a shame. Hope where ever he is there are lots of gays.
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RE: Atheist Nate Phelps, on his father Fred Phelps
March 22, 2014 at 1:44 pm
(March 21, 2014 at 3:00 pm)Tonus Wrote: Quote:He says he will mourn his father, “not for the man he was, but for the man he could have been.”
I suspect that those people who had a heart-wrenching situation made even more horrible by Fred Phelps and his sign-waving goons are having a bit of trouble seeing past the man he was. Now that the miserable old wretch has passed on, they're supposed to imagine a world where insensitive douche bags didn't add to their mental and emotional agony?
My father said the same thing when we attended his mother's funeral. She was a nasty, narcissistic and abusive woman.
When you're a victim of child abuse, what do you say to cope when the abusing parent finally dies? Apparently, this is the defense mechanism, if these two examples are any indication, to imagine a fantasy universe where the abuser was a completely different person. Sure it makes no sense but most defense mechanisms don't. I can't judge anyone in that situation, who went through that pain and must find a way to reach some resolution. Let them find peace any way they can.
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RE: Atheist Nate Phelps, on his father Fred Phelps
March 22, 2014 at 8:30 pm
(March 21, 2014 at 8:03 pm)xpastor Wrote: (March 21, 2014 at 5:36 pm)Deidre32 Wrote: You're right, tor.
While I wasn't a 'hateful' Christian type, I can't help but think how much time I've wasted. I can't get those years back, everyone. It's hard knowing that, sometimes. Yes, indeed. I wasted a lot of time on it, and also money putting myself through 3 years of seminary and working a few more years for low pay as pastor of a little church. Then I never got back into professional work; it was all scrabbling for manual labor.
I'm retired now (age 73) and mostly I'm comfortable enough with Canada Pension, but I sometimes think if it weren't for that stupid detour into the ministry, I could afford to travel to Europe.
I'm sorry you feel too like you've wasted time. Maybe we didn't, though. Maybe it was necessary in a way -- I don't know. Every experience, there's a lesson to be gleaned.
I keep telling myself this, anyway. :p
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RE: Atheist Nate Phelps, on his father Fred Phelps
March 23, 2014 at 7:28 am
Proof that death isn't always bad. Burn in hell, fucker.
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RE: Atheist Nate Phelps, on his father Fred Phelps
March 23, 2014 at 7:48 pm
(March 23, 2014 at 7:28 am)bennyboy Wrote: Proof that death isn't always bad. Burn in hell, fucker.
He died a natural peaceful death after living a full life. There's probably no afterlife so it ended pretty well for him.
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RE: Atheist Nate Phelps, on his father Fred Phelps
March 23, 2014 at 7:56 pm
(March 21, 2014 at 5:43 pm)tor Wrote: I wonder what Fred was thinking about when he was dying. Was he really thinking he is going somewhere?
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RE: Atheist Nate Phelps, on his father Fred Phelps
March 24, 2014 at 11:22 pm
(March 23, 2014 at 7:48 pm)ElectricAnxiety Wrote: (March 23, 2014 at 7:28 am)bennyboy Wrote: Proof that death isn't always bad. Burn in hell, fucker.
He died a natural peaceful death after living a full life. There's probably no afterlife so it ended pretty well for him.
I know. And not that I'm a vengeful person at all, but you wonder sometimes where the justice comes in for people like this. And Pat Robertson types...becoming filthy rich to boot, preaching hate. It's unreal.
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