To abort or not to abort

[pocaracas]

gordita? Losty, you hispanic?

No but my kids are
My oldest 2 are ESL haha. The littlest doesn't talk much yet lol. She doesn't hear as much Spanish as the other 2 did, but I am trying to make sure she learns it to.

Teach them portuguese instead!
Portuguese can understand spanish... but spanish people can't understand portuguese!

[Losty]

No but my kids are
My oldest 2 are ESL haha. The littlest doesn't talk much yet lol. She doesn't hear as much Spanish as the other 2 did, but I am trying to make sure she learns it to.

Teach them portuguese instead!
Portuguese can understand spanish... but spanish people can't understand portuguese!

What is the difference? I can read Portuguese and I can understand it if you speak really slow. But I cannot speak it lol. If they want to learn that I will have to see if they have Portuguese in the My Baby Can Speak... books and videos.

Teaching them English was fun. I never knew how bad I sucked as a teacher until I had to teach my own kids to speak English lol.

[Heywood]

Lol heywood. How's about this my love, if it's my fetus then it's my business and if it's not my fetus then I don't really gaf what other people do with their fetus.

Is that opinion flawed?

Yes, that opinion is flawed.

If the state has the right to be concerned with the welfare of your children because they are human beings then the state has a right to be concerned with the welfare of your fetus....because it is also a human being. For those who say a fetus is not a human being, please open a biology text book and look under life cycle of a human being. The life cycle of a human being does not "begin" at birth. The life cycle of a human being begins at conception.

[fr0d0]

[Losty]

Lol heywood. How's about this my love, if it's my fetus then it's my business and if it's not my fetus then I don't really gaf what other people do with their fetus.

Is that opinion flawed?

Yes, that opinion is flawed.

If the state has the right to be concerned with the welfare of your children because they are human beings then the state has a right to be concerned with the welfare of your fetus....because it is also a human being. For those who say a fetus is not a human being, please open a biology text book and look under life cycle of a human being. The life cycle of a human being does not "begin" at birth. The life cycle of a human being begins at conception.

No wrong. The state has the right to be concerned with children because they are people.
You can scientifically prove what is a human being sure, but science doesn't define personhood.

[Rampant.A.I.]

Lol heywood. How's about this my love, if it's my fetus then it's my business and if it's not my fetus then I don't really gaf what other people do with their fetus.

Is that opinion flawed?

Yes, that opinion is flawed.

If the state has the right to be concerned with the welfare of your children because they are human beings then the state has a right to be concerned with the welfare of your fetus....because it is also a human being. For those who say a fetus is not a human being, please open a biology text book and look under life cycle of a human being. The life cycle of a human being does not "begin" at birth. The life cycle of a human being begins at conception.

This is not a person.

The entire potentiality argument is a ridiculous leftover from Kant religious idiots keep vomiting up out of a deep seated need to control women's reproductive systems.

None of you are all that concerned what happens to ACTUAL PEOPLE, but you'll scream until you're purple about the BABY KILLINGS that AREN'T TAKING PLACE in the majority of instances.

I suggest you OPEN the biology textbooks you claim to be quoting from, and actually read it instead of parroting what you've been told back like mindless automatons.

[Heywood]

No wrong. The state has the right to be concerned with children because they are people.
You can scientifically prove what is a human being sure, but science doesn't define personhood.

Suppose I am out hunting in the woods and I see some bushes move and I shoot into those bushes because it might be the kind of animal I am hunting. Sadly...it turns out a 5 year old child is shot dead.

Was it immoral of me to shoot with the intent to kill without knowing what it is I was killing?

In situations where personhood cannot be ascertained....which is your situation as you claim personhood can't be defined....isn't the morally correct course of action to take the safest route?

The inability to define personhood is not an argument for abortion. The inability to define personhood is an argument for life.

[Napoléon]

The life cycle of a human being begins at conception.

Did you miss my post earlier in the thread where 80% of naturally conceived embryos are flushed out by women on their periods? Are women serial killers?

[Losty]

No wrong. The state has the right to be concerned with children because they are people.
You can scientifically prove what is a human being sure, but science doesn't define personhood.

Suppose I am out hunting in the woods and I see some bushes move and I shoot into those bushes because it might be the kind of animal I am hunting. Sadly...it turns out a 5 year old child is shot dead.

Was it immoral of me to shoot with the intent to kill without knowing what it is I was killing?

In situations where personhood cannot be ascertained....which is your situation as you claim personhood can't be defined....isn't the morally correct course of action to take the safest route?

The inability to define personhood is not an argument for abortion. The inability to define personhood is an argument for life.

I didn't say it couldn't be defined I said science cannot define it. The closest science can come to defining personhood is telling us when a being is sentient. If you have a sentient human being then I will call it a person. If it's not sentient you cannot prove that it is a person and your lack of evidence showing it to be a person is just as good as evidence showing it to not be a person IMO.

Also I swear I am not a practicing board for debate. I suck at debate. I have zero formal education (for now). I want to be off talking about sexiness.

I do not believe abortion is wrong. You cannot change my mind on this subject.

[pocaracas]

Teach them portuguese instead!
Portuguese can understand spanish... but spanish people can't understand portuguese!

What is the difference? I can read Portuguese and I can understand it if you speak really slow. But I cannot speak it lol. If they want to learn that I will have to see if they have Portuguese in the My Baby Can Speak... books and videos.

Teaching them English was fun. I never knew how bad I sucked as a teacher until I had to teach my own kids to speak English lol.

The difference is the amount of different sounds you can make.
Portuguese has what some call "12 vowels"... spanish has little over 5.... and spanish sounds a lot like arabic...meh
Portuguese sounds like russian!

Do use a proper portuguese teacher... not a brazillian... that's a whole different language!