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Fine tuning of the multiverse?
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Fine tuning of the multiverse?
So life appeared to be fine tuned. Evolution explained it.
The universe appeared to be fine tuned. Multiverse might explain it.
Is it possible that multiverse will appear to be fine tuned and you need megaverse to explain IT?
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RE: Fine tuning of the multiverse?
(March 27, 2014 at 7:23 am)tor Wrote: So life appeared to be fine tuned. Evolution explained it.
The universe appeared to be fine tuned. Multiverse might explain it.
Is it possible that multiverse will appear to be fine tuned and you need megaverse to explain IT?

I'm still confused as to what could be meant by "before the Big Bang" if time itself emerged at that point.
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RE: Fine tuning of the multiverse?
(March 27, 2014 at 7:51 am)Pickup_shonuff Wrote:
(March 27, 2014 at 7:23 am)tor Wrote: So life appeared to be fine tuned. Evolution explained it.
The universe appeared to be fine tuned. Multiverse might explain it.
Is it possible that multiverse will appear to be fine tuned and you need megaverse to explain IT?

I'm still confused as to what could be meant by "before the Big Bang" if time itself emerged at that point.

What I wonder is what time does multiverse have. Does it have multitime? And each universe has it's own time?
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#4
RE: Fine tuning of the multiverse?
I like to eat jabeneros.

They appear to be fine-tuned to my taste since not many people like them.

The Flying Chile Monster must be trying to tell me something...
Mother Mercy, take my hand; guide me through this forsaken land. Father Time, return what's mine; the innocence you stole from these eyes. 'Cause I just feel numb...
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#5
RE: Fine tuning of the multiverse?
The multiverse was created by Stan Lee. Who is way cooler than Yahweh could ever have dreamed of being.
"Well, evolution is a theory. It is also a fact. And facts and theories are different things, not rungs in a hierarchy of increasing certainty. Facts are the world's data. Theories are structures of ideas that explain and interpret facts. Facts don't go away when scientists debate rival theories to explain them. Einstein's theory of gravitation replaced Newton's in this century, but apples didn't suspend themselves in midair, pending the outcome. And humans evolved from ape- like ancestors whether they did so by Darwin's proposed mechanism or by some other yet to be discovered."

-Stephen Jay Gould
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#6
RE: Fine tuning of the multiverse?
The Reptoid men of Pluto don't think the universe is fine tuned as they never got to exist.
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RE: Fine tuning of the multiverse?
(March 27, 2014 at 7:51 am)Pickup_shonuff Wrote: I'm still confused as to what could be meant by "before the Big Bang" if time itself emerged at that point.

My simple and likely wrong mental picture of 'before the big bang' is one of causality.
We've got 3 spacial dimensions and one of time. Each is orthagonal to all the others. You can move along any of these axes without changing the value of any of the others. One, time, is constrained by second law arguments.

<Sung>
You can't pass heat from a cooler to a hotter...
If you think you're going to well I think you better notter.
</Sung>

It is back along this axis that the big bang lies. The place it came from is orthagonal to that time dimension, but still along a causality axis. We can't see in that direction at the moment. So whether or not it truly exists is speculative.

What's north of the north pole? UP!
I'm ok with a block universe. Just like free will, I don't care if the universe is deterministic if I think it's not.
So how, exactly, does God know that She's NOT a brain in a vat? Huh
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#8
RE: Fine tuning of the multiverse?
The multiverse actually refers to a family of hypotheses.

We can have individual universes that are spread so far apart in space that is expanding that nothing which happens in one universe can affect what happens in another universe because the forces involved would have to travel faster than the speed of light to reach from one to the other.

Or you can have universes which exist "separated in time" such that when one universe exists, the others either have been, or are yet to be.

Then there is Everett's "Many-worlds interpretation" of quantum mechanics in which all possible branchings of the quantum wave function exist simultaneously, but because of the way they branch, only specific possibilities are available to a specific observer in one of these simultaneously existing "universes." (It's a controversy in physics as to whether the Many-worlds view is just an interpretation of quantum mechanics, which determines how terms in QM are to be assigned meaning, or whether it is a theory of physics in its own right. There might be observable consequences if the Many-worlds Interpretation is true.)

And then there's Roger Penrose's CCC model, in which the current universe becomes completely spread out via entropy that the universe "forgets" how big it is, and it reverts to the state of a big-bang singularity because it "rescales" itself, and another universe like ours is born.
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#9
RE: Fine tuning of the multiverse?
What's a possible experimental prediction? Other than whether suicide works Big Grin
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