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RE: What makes a Good person?
December 27, 2009 at 1:36 am
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(December 27, 2009 at 1:25 am)Pippy Wrote: isn't there 60,000 bacteria, and about 70 are harmful?
Antibiotics and silly anti-bacterial soap seems to have missed that memo.
You don't honestly think that do you? The harmful bacteria in a biological system does far more harm that the good bacteria do in opposition, so neutralising them all is a more effective solution.
Anti-bacterial soap is designed for situations where harmful bacteria is present such as bathrooms and helps prevent the intake so you don't need to ravage your system with antibodies to destroy the harmful bacteria.
Some people go way too far with it, there are ads for detol Pocket soap here, you see people washing their hands after stupid things like swiping their eftpos card or pushing a shopping trolley, it's insanity.
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RE: What makes a Good person?
December 27, 2009 at 3:37 am
The so-called bad bacteria must have a use....Maybe it is a natural way to keep populations in balance. If this is true, which it may not be, I can then ask, what if you overcome natures natural defence in population control? Hey, imagine a world without death or prolonged life!!!
And, on another point, why do bad-bacteria exist if they are bad? This may seem like a stuipid question and probably is, but musn't they fit into the eco-system somehow.
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RE: What makes a Good person?
December 27, 2009 at 3:45 am
(December 27, 2009 at 3:37 am)ib.me.ub Wrote: The so-called bad bacteria must have a use....Maybe it is a natural way to keep populations in balance. If this is true, which it may not be, I can then ask, what if you overcome natures natural defence in population control? Hey, imagine a world without death or prolonged life!!!
And, on another point, why do bad-bacteria exist if they are bad? This may seem like a stuipid question and probably is, but musn't they fit into the eco-system somehow.
Must have a use? Nonsense, some things just are because they can be, and because they are and have an influence everything tends to adapt together either in conflict or cooperation.
Bad bacteria are only bad subjectively, in our opinion, because they are detrimental to our health. I was told that salmonella and E-coli are significant parts of the poultry immune system, but don't quote me on that.
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RE: What makes a Good person?
December 28, 2009 at 3:09 am
"This may seem like a stuipid question and probably is, but musn't they fit into the eco-system somehow. "
"Bad bacteria are only bad subjectively, in our opinion, because they are detrimental to our health."
Both true. That is what I was Saying a couple of posts ago. That bacteria has no moral value itself. Neither does a virus. They can be very deadly to humans, and so we attach a moral value to them, but it is silliness. Because if we don't want the "bad" bacteria then we are left separated from life. All of the things we think are bad, like sickness, death, lack of control; these are all necessary. Try to make a world without death, see where it gets you. It's like trying to make a world without fire.
All the anti-bac soap, and more so the misuse of antibiotics do lead to a damaging of all bacteria. That's why you get grumpy belly when you take amoxicillin. And it is silly to cover your house in anti-bacterial shit because 99% of those bacteria are benign or helpful.
And we must accept the sco-system as it is, and not fight to hard against it. That is where us humans get ourselves into trouble, we try to control that what we cannot (or should not), and it leads to problems.
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RE: What makes a Good person?
December 28, 2009 at 5:25 am
(December 24, 2009 at 1:26 am)Xyster Wrote: Better yet.. We should be asking what makes a USELESS person.. then remove them from the genepool. I'm not saying kill anyone but sterilization would'nt be a bad Idea.
Not forced sterilization... the most that should ever be done to this end is encouragement of the 'better' genes, and a lack of encouragement for the genes deemed 'negative' in comparison to the average of the population.
And that's really as far as one should ever be allowed to move to that end In any case, given enough time: you will have a stronger/faster/better-in-whatever-sense-you-were-encouraging population
The real question though is what makes a gene 'positive' or 'negative', and who/how would judge said answer?
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RE: What makes a Good person?
December 29, 2009 at 11:29 pm
^Next time your walking down the street open your eyes and take a look around..... There are examples of negative genes all over the place
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RE: What makes a Good person?
December 29, 2009 at 11:41 pm
I prefer looking at tight genes.
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RE: What makes a Good person?
January 5, 2010 at 12:22 pm
Surely in that case you meant.... jeans?
How can genes be tight? Interesting hmmm
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RE: What makes a Good person?
January 9, 2010 at 5:01 am
(December 29, 2009 at 11:29 pm)ib.me.ub Wrote: ^Next time your walking down the street open your eyes and take a look around..... There are examples of negative genes all over the place
Rather, i find myself questioning to which 'negative' genes you are referring? What makes a gene 'negative', and how could it be so apparent if i were to walk down a street? I was unaware we could see genes with the naked eye :S
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RE: What makes a Good person?
January 9, 2010 at 7:14 am
(December 27, 2009 at 3:37 am)ib.me.ub Wrote: The so-called bad bacteria must have a use....Maybe it is a natural way to keep populations in balance. If this is true, which it may not be, I can then ask, what if you overcome natures natural defence in population control? Hey, imagine a world without death or prolonged life!!!
And, on another point, why do bad-bacteria exist if they are bad? This may seem like a stuipid question and probably is, but musn't they fit into the eco-system somehow.
You are trying to translate human values to something that has evolved to fit its niche.
The "bad" bacteria exist because they can, and their detrimental effect on us is the most
effective way for them to propagate. Which, after all the only reason life has for existing,
to create more life.
Think of the wasp that propagates by injecting its eggs into the bodies of live caterpillars.
Is that wasp bad in human terms?
Yet it's pretty devastating as far as the caterpillar is concerned.
Good and bad are not terms you can apply to the natural world.
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