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RE: So Hitler was an Atheist?
December 28, 2009 at 1:48 am
Hitler was raised in the Catholic church and believed as illustrated countless times by myself that everything he did was in vengeance for the Jews executing Jesus Christ. He felt he was gods judgement upon the Jews. He was not an atheist as is written in his own words in Mein Kampf and illustrated in his many speaches. There is no debate here he might have been a deranged christian but he was a christian nonetheless.
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RE: So Hitler was an Atheist?
December 28, 2009 at 2:23 am
Lol you are so cruel sometimes Min, they (Christians/religionists) have enough on their plate trying to defend and continually perpetuate a myth.
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RE: So Hitler was an Atheist?
December 28, 2009 at 4:44 am
The point is not whether the nazis were christians or atheists, the point is that the nazis combined dogma with brute suppression, there was no room for differing opinion. All dogmatic systems lead to suppression of some sort. It can be religion, it can be nationalism, it can be communism, it can be nazism.
Dogma is not a unique feature of religion and the possibility that one day an atheist variant raises its ugly head cannot be excluded. The only remedy I see is room for differing opinion, democracy, critical thinking.
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RE: So Hitler was an Atheist?
December 28, 2009 at 5:33 am
It is off course obvious that the reason Hitler did all those things because he only had one testicle and a little mustache. That combination leads people to do such horrific things.
Well it is as good of an explanation as "It was because of his atheism" or "it was because of his Christian upbringing and anti-Semitic views".
The reason why is not something you can point in one area and say "it's because of X", it is the combination of factors that gave Hitler the opportunity to rise to power and instigate the atrocities of Nazi-Germany. Let's not forget he was not alone in this, there were thousands of Nazis who knowingly and willingly aided and abetted in the systematic destruction of the Jewish community in Europe.
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RE: So Hitler was an Atheist?
December 28, 2009 at 6:30 am
What does it matter what his reasons were or his religion? He was wrong.
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RE: So Hitler was an Atheist?
December 28, 2009 at 8:18 am
If a man is the sum of his experiences then assuredly religion is one aspect of that. Just the same I could profess total belief in Christianity and completely go against all moralistic and societal aspects of my life. The fact that some rely on one aspect of a man to color more distain for Christianity is fairly petty as are the Christians who vehemently deny such documented proofs against such. Maping the entirety of a person whom I've never met and spoken with would be difficult in the extreme. Instead let's logically list the truths documented about him to for a more rounded view of his personality.
Religion has been named a great part in the attrocities of this world and I agree mostly. It has also been the cause of great joy and personal freedom. Religion is not God though, it is fallible man's inerrant depiction of a eutopian ideal far outside their grasp.
It is interesting to understand just why/how the Nazis came to their belief differently than we come to our disbelief.
