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RE: Believers, please differentiate these gods.
May 2, 2014 at 2:05 pm
(May 2, 2014 at 1:55 am)Quantum Theorist Wrote: (May 2, 2014 at 1:41 am)Godschild Wrote: god B isn't much of a god if one at all
god C not existing doesn't need to be considered at all
I choose God A for Adonai meaning "my Lord"
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Why not, you're just not considering the option to avoid the hypothetical. The point of my thread is to ask how to distinguish between God B and God C.
This isn't about your opinion of what god you think is the right one, only to differentiate between B and C. But I if you think God A is the correct one, I'd like to see some demonstrable evidence of this god's manifestation.
I did differentiate between B & C then chose the real One.
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RE: Believers, please differentiate these gods.
May 2, 2014 at 5:16 pm
(May 2, 2014 at 1:17 pm)ChadWooters Wrote: Jesus could be active in you're life if you wanted. He's waiting for you to come home, Esquilax.
How do you know this? (the bible does NOT count as a valid source of knowledge)
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RE: Believers, please differentiate these gods.
May 2, 2014 at 7:36 pm
(This post was last modified: May 2, 2014 at 7:44 pm by MJ the Skeptical.)
(May 2, 2014 at 2:05 pm)Godschild Wrote: (May 2, 2014 at 1:55 am)Quantum Theorist Wrote: Why not, you're just not considering the option to avoid the hypothetical. The point of my thread is to ask how to distinguish between God B and God C.
This isn't about your opinion of what god you think is the right one, only to differentiate between B and C. But I if you think God A is the correct one, I'd like to see some demonstrable evidence of this god's manifestation.
I did differentiate between B & C then chose the real One.
GC
You didn't differentiate anything, maybe you should look that word up.
(May 2, 2014 at 1:37 pm)alpha male Wrote: Maybe we should instead play what's next in the series
Seems to me God C should be:
God C, this god does not manifest in reality but this god's actions do manifest in reality.
Then the current C would be D:
God D, this god does not manifest in reality in any way.
I left out the parentheticals as they're non sequiturs. A God D could exist, and would be a deist-type god.
Uh, no because that's God B.
All the believers in here just want to duck the question and twist it to what they want.
My point still stands that you can't tell the difference between God B (god who exists but it's actions can't be detected, can't be verified or don't manifest) and God C (god which doesn't exist).
(May 2, 2014 at 11:23 am)Esquilax Wrote: Things we've learned from this thread: christians can only imagine one thing at a time, and since all their mental energies are spent pretending that their god is god A, they can't spare the runtime to deal with hypotheticals more closely aligned with actual reality, which is that their god is either B or C. 
I know right, they have a cognitive dissonance or bias that can't let them answer this example honestly without twisting it.
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RE: Believers, please differentiate these gods.
May 2, 2014 at 8:51 pm
God A would be differentiated if we had a confirmable case of his intervention that could be studied, such as spontaneous regrowth of a amputees limb (unfortunately the bible doesn't make the cut because if you accept it as real and want to be consistent in your methodology you have too accept a myriad of other holy books as well.) So we have no cases of that.
God b and c are indistinguishable unless you can divise a method to detect a god directly, and even then it would only be nothing more then a technicality.
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RE: Believers, please differentiate these gods.
May 3, 2014 at 5:30 pm
(May 2, 2014 at 1:17 pm)ChadWooters Wrote: Jesus could be active in you're life if you wanted. He's waiting for you to come home, Esquilax.
*sigh*
Got anything else? Your imagination doesn't really make for a decent debate.
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RE: Believers, please differentiate these gods.
May 5, 2014 at 9:25 am
(May 2, 2014 at 7:36 pm)Godslayer Wrote: (May 2, 2014 at 2:05 pm)Godschild Wrote: I did differentiate between B & C then chose the real One.
GC
You didn't differentiate anything, maybe you should look that word up.
Just because you do not accept my differentiation, doesn't make it a non-differentiation.
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RE: Believers, please differentiate these gods.
May 5, 2014 at 9:37 am
(This post was last modified: May 5, 2014 at 9:40 am by MJ the Skeptical.)
(May 5, 2014 at 9:25 am)Godschild Wrote: (May 2, 2014 at 7:36 pm)Godslayer Wrote: You didn't differentiate anything, maybe you should look that word up.
Just because you do not accept my differentiation, doesn't make it a non-differentiation.
GC
Well, you didn't differentiate them, you just asserted that God C was irrelevant to avoid the flaw. So, I ask again...How can you differentiate God (B.) from God (C.)?
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RE: Believers, please differentiate these gods.
May 5, 2014 at 10:06 am
(May 2, 2014 at 1:17 pm)ChadWooters Wrote: Jesus could be active in you're life if you wanted. He's waiting for you to come home, Esquilax.
That's bullshit and you know it. Everyone knows you get to heaven by following the five pillars of Islam. It says so in the Koran.
Also, the Koran is more trustworthy than the Bible because it's more recent.
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RE: Believers, please differentiate these gods.
May 5, 2014 at 12:37 pm
(May 5, 2014 at 10:06 am)RobbyPants Wrote: Also, the Koran is more trustworthy than the Bible because it's more recent.
Plus, it's the original text, unaltered; the direct word of Allah. The angel Gabriel repeated Allah's words to Mohammed; it contains accurate scientific facts and best of all, it's mathematically correct.
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Believers, please differentiate these gods.
May 5, 2014 at 2:04 pm
Oh, is this the "prove the accuracy of another religion with inane claims made by that religion and pretend this bolsters your religion" thread?
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