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gods' test
#11
RE: gods' test
(December 29, 2009 at 3:16 pm)HornyJesus Wrote:


Life is for living, learning and loving. One possible scenario is that God has free will. He created us with free will. God (if he exists and is sentient) has knowledge of good and evil since he has created all things, yet he chooses to do right. All knowing and no since of time leaves a lot of room for allowing development. Perhaps if we are to quit choosing wrong over right consistantly with our free will our moral standard will evolve more towards God's. Perhaps one day we'll be planting a "tree of knowledge of good and evil" somewhere for our little antroids we've created with strong AI for them to develop sentience.

(December 29, 2009 at 9:01 pm)Ashes1995 Wrote:


So why have prisons or courts?

(December 29, 2009 at 9:13 pm)chatpilot Wrote:


Is this going along the same lines of the arguement that If I ask 1000 people to stand in a line so I can give them money I'm an asshole because a)It excludes some and b)It requires people to get off their butts? I don't buy that. If that's so then I was a major asshole over the holidays and should be ashamed of myself.
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#12
RE: gods' test
Quote:God (if he exists and is sentient) has knowledge of good and evil since he has created all things, yet he chooses to do right.

What would make you think that God has never ending tolerance towards humans?
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#13
RE: gods' test
(December 30, 2009 at 8:41 am)ib.me.ub Wrote:
Purple Rabbit Wrote:
(December 30, 2009 at 8:41 am)ib.me.ub Wrote: Most of you seem to talk as if evolution has finished, done it's course, for the human species. For most of you it probably has!

Well, if you believe evolution hasn't finished for you, try evolving right now in someone who understands evolution.

Evolution is not about physical transformation on an individual level.

Really, so how does it take place then?
Oh my gosh! Let's be clear on this, I have no intention whatsoever to be your personal coach for a proper education about evolution, information that is freely all over the internet to find. Educate yourself.

If you believe evolution can make you morph into an elephant, amaze me.
"I'm like a rabbit suddenly trapped, in the blinding headlights of vacuous crap" - Tim Minchin in "Storm"
Christianity is perfect bullshit, christians are not - Purple Rabbit, honouring CS Lewis
Faith is illogical - fr0d0
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#14
RE: gods' test
as far the meaning of life in general that wasn't what I was going for. Most atheists have a different perspective ,even from each other, but it's the religious people I was wondering about. If you really believe heaven is waiting just around the corner you're going to do whatever you feel you need to to get in. Follow what ever teaching you have bought into. This is a test you MUST pass. Making you lose sight of the forest for the trees.
Reminds me of the quote 'Isn't it enough to see that a garden is beautiful without having to believe that there are fairies at the bottom of it too?'
The garden really is beautiful. Seems a shame to miss any of it because you're running around looking for fairies or worse yet killing people because some fairies don't get along.



the basic idea of a perfect being , making imperfect people, and sorting out the 'perfect ones' to keep, just doesn't make sense to me. Most of religion doesn't but...
What makes more sense to me is maybe god is a sixth grade god and we are all part of a science fair project. Then the test makes sense. He or she [god grade school is co-ed] will be graded on how many get to 'heaven'. So we better try hard 'cause you know all the losing science fair projects end up in the trash.
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#15
RE: gods' test
Your prophet repeats himself too much. He could have started that whole paragraph with "O My servants," and then just written the following points after saying that just once. As you wrote it, it comes off all preachy. Sad

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#16
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thats because it is preaching.
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Leo van Miert
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#17
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Hey, isn't that against forum rules... hmm? Wink Its gone now! Leo, now my post looks very weird! Oh, well...
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#18
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Yeah, someone should ban his ass.
Best regards,
Leo van Miert
Horsepower is how hard you hit the wall --Torque is how far you take the wall with you
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#19
RE: gods' test
who? did I miss something? Was I preaching?
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#20
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Nope it was Last_Ray and apparently he has been banned.
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