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RE: Abortion and Global warming
May 20, 2014 at 2:55 pm
(May 20, 2014 at 2:45 pm)Ryantology (╯°◊°)╯︵ ══╬ Wrote: (May 20, 2014 at 12:28 pm)Heywood Wrote: How does someone who is pro abortion justify fighting against global warming?
Abortion is a matter concerning the fate of one "person". Climate change is a matter concerning the fate of humanity.
It is humanity's world and humanity's choice. If the people living today want to destroy the world....why should they care about potential future generations? Future people have no rights.
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RE: Abortion and Global warming
May 20, 2014 at 2:59 pm
(May 20, 2014 at 2:55 pm)Heywood Wrote: Future people have no rights.
You are equivocating an actual future person and a potential future person that will never exist. This makes your entire argument ridiculous.
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RE: Abortion and Global warming
May 20, 2014 at 3:04 pm
(May 20, 2014 at 2:52 pm)Cato Wrote: (May 20, 2014 at 2:47 pm)Heywood Wrote: Yeah...I am challenging that notion....to see where it leads.
It leads to you being considered an idiot for floating such an absurd proposition.
I'm not too concerned with how people on an internet forum view me. Your value to me is your thoughts and ideals....your arguments and counter arguments. Your opinions, as far as I am concerned, are worthless.
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RE: Abortion and Global warming
May 20, 2014 at 3:13 pm
(May 20, 2014 at 3:04 pm)Heywood Wrote: (May 20, 2014 at 2:52 pm)Cato Wrote: It leads to you being considered an idiot for floating such an absurd proposition.
I'm not too concerned with how people on an internet forum view me. Your value to me is your thoughts and ideals....your arguments and counter arguments. Your opinions, as far as I am concerned, are worthless.
If that were the case you would be replying to those and not this.
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RE: Abortion and Global warming
May 20, 2014 at 3:17 pm
(May 20, 2014 at 3:13 pm)Cato Wrote: (May 20, 2014 at 3:04 pm)Heywood Wrote: I'm not too concerned with how people on an internet forum view me. Your value to me is your thoughts and ideals....your arguments and counter arguments. Your opinions, as far as I am concerned, are worthless.
If that were the case you would be replying to those and not this.
Negative Cato,
My wanting to express an opinion to you has nothing to do with me wanting to hear your opinion.
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RE: Abortion and Global warming
May 20, 2014 at 3:18 pm
(May 20, 2014 at 3:17 pm)Heywood Wrote: (May 20, 2014 at 3:13 pm)Cato Wrote: If that were the case you would be replying to those and not this.
Negative Cato,
My wanting to express an opinion to you has nothing to do with me wanting to hear your opinion.
You're still not replying to the substance you claim to cherish.
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RE: Abortion and Global warming
May 20, 2014 at 3:32 pm
Heywood, go back to page 2 and read my post. No-one is saying that the unborn don't have a right to life.
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RE: Abortion and Global warming
May 20, 2014 at 3:37 pm
Hang on a sec, he's busy telling Cato how little his opinions matters.
"Well, evolution is a theory. It is also a fact. And facts and theories are different things, not rungs in a hierarchy of increasing certainty. Facts are the world's data. Theories are structures of ideas that explain and interpret facts. Facts don't go away when scientists debate rival theories to explain them. Einstein's theory of gravitation replaced Newton's in this century, but apples didn't suspend themselves in midair, pending the outcome. And humans evolved from ape- like ancestors whether they did so by Darwin's proposed mechanism or by some other yet to be discovered."
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RE: Abortion and Global warming
May 20, 2014 at 5:07 pm
(This post was last modified: May 20, 2014 at 5:10 pm by Ryantology.)
(May 20, 2014 at 2:55 pm)Heywood Wrote: It is humanity's world and humanity's choice. If the people living today want to destroy the world....why should they care about potential future generations? Future people have no rights.
And if 100% of humanity agrees to make the choice to screw the future, maybe that's what we deserve, and maybe you have a legitimate equivalency. That's not how it is.
I know you're trying to suggest that there is a hypocrisy to the pro-choice argument, but you're going to have to find a legitimate equivalent situation if you want to succeed.
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RE: Abortion and Global warming
May 20, 2014 at 6:11 pm
(This post was last modified: May 20, 2014 at 6:12 pm by BrianSoddingBoru4.)
Quote:Abortion is essentially a termination of a future person.
So is every act of male masturbation. You claim to be concerned about global warming and the future of our species, but every time you run a batch you're terminating about 250 million 'future persons'.
Think about that the next time you get out your lotion and tissues to watch Kirk Cameron wax rhapsodic about crocoducks.
Boru
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