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Atheist Utopia
May 31, 2014 at 12:44 pm
Here's just a flight of fancy. Suppose there was an atheist "See the truth" ray and everybody forgot about religion overnight ...what sort of society would we like to see set up? I can foresee it should be a fairer sort of society all round , but I can already envisage that it wouldn't be one size fits all.....for instance Vegetarians and Vegans might want to set up independent states so they can live the way they want without imposing their eating habits on others....anybody else got any thoughts?
It's not immoral to eat meat, abort a fetus or love someone of the same sex...I think that about covers it
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RE: Atheist Utopia
May 31, 2014 at 12:45 pm
Hookers and blow?
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RE: Atheist Utopia
May 31, 2014 at 12:47 pm
(May 31, 2014 at 12:45 pm)Rhythm Wrote: Hookers and blow?
I guess we could find room for neccessities 
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RE: Atheist Utopia
May 31, 2014 at 12:51 pm
No religion just means less baggage and certainly does not imply consensus regarding all the other negotiations required to coexist. How much more efficient the other negotiations become without dragging religion along is something that can only be dreamt about.
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RE: Atheist Utopia
May 31, 2014 at 12:59 pm
(May 31, 2014 at 12:51 pm)Cato Wrote: No religion just means less baggage and certainly does not imply consensus regarding all the other negotiations required to coexist. How much more efficient the other negotiations become without dragging religion along is something that can only be dreamt about.
It would be a nice dream though wouldn't it?
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RE: Atheist Utopia
May 31, 2014 at 1:01 pm
People will still believe in irrational stuff. They will still listen to people who claim to have all the answers. They will follow something that gives them hope, despite the evidence contradicting it. As a human it is very difficult to be totally rational as sadly we are limited by our imperfect brains.
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RE: Atheist Utopia
May 31, 2014 at 1:10 pm
It'd take a really big, really heavily armed vegan/vegetarian to impose their lifestyle on me, utopia or not. Just saying.
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RE: Atheist Utopia
May 31, 2014 at 4:41 pm
South Park had a two part episode that details what happens.
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RE: Atheist Utopia
June 1, 2014 at 8:04 am
(May 31, 2014 at 12:44 pm)vodkafan Wrote: ..for instance Vegetarians and Vegans might want to set up independent states so they can live the way they want without imposing their eating habits on others....
(May 31, 2014 at 1:10 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: It'd take a really big, really heavily armed vegan/vegetarian to impose their lifestyle on me, utopia or not. Just saying.
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The Insect Cookbook features delicious recipes and interviews with top chefs, insect farmers, political figures, and nutrition experts, including chef René Redzepi, whose establishment was elected three times as “best restaurant of the world”; Kofi Annan, former secretary-general of the United Nations; and Daniella Martin of Girl Meets Bug. The book contains all you need to know about cooking with insects, where to buy them, which ones are edible, and how to store and prepare them at home and in commercial spaces.
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RE: Atheist Utopia
June 1, 2014 at 11:43 am
I think my ideal society would be more focused on social, educational and non-religion-related political reforms than religious-political ones. If we could just have a political system where religion wasn't allowed to try and manipulate the system for the advantage of the religious or the advantage of a particular subset of the religious, then I'd consider us rather well off in this area.
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