Science was once a child of the church.

[mickiel]

[Cinjin]

And the church was its mother.

Partially yes, not universally by any stretch.

A fact many Atheist seem to be unaware of. Or would soon forget. You would be surprised to see how many scientist were believers in God that actually founded some serious science.

Again, not all of them. There were also scientists that came out of Islam and other religions. I'm not real sure what your point is. There are people who became doctors who were once part of a college fraternity. It doesn't mean the college fraternity gets credit for their medical license.

I am not a religious man or a Christian, but I am often amused at how some Atheist seem to use science as a type of weapon against religion, not knowing that science was once a bedfellow with religion.

I'm not real sure what your point is with this one either ...

Just because SOME science was started in the church doesn't mean that Atheists shouldn't reference the FACT that the church mostly inhibited the growth of science and basic knowledge throughout history. It's not an illegitimate point to make if you're a non-believer. Pointing out that the Christian Church made a great effort to retard, stifle, and even completely inhibit the growth of the human race is still very valid.

[Rampant.A.I.]

[Napoléon]

Atheism does not predate Theism, because it came from it. Explain to me how there could be an Atheist, without there first being a Theist?

A - Without
Theism - Belief in god

Atheism - Without belief in god/lack of belief in god

Does one have to know about god before not-believing in it? Or would that be the default position?

[Anomalocaris]

[mickiel]

Science doesn't have a fucking mission. It doesn't make it any less a tool for disproving bullshit claims made by the religious.

Your use of cursing proves nothing either, except a distain for the human language.

I know science has no written mission to disprove religion, and I am glad that point is made clear. Some Atheist may desire that to be true, but its not.

[Napoléon]

Your use of cursing proves nothing either, except a distain for the human language.

NOT CURSE WORDS! NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[mickiel]

[Losty]

So what? If you believe that the earth is round, you may be surprised to know that scientists used to believe it was flat. I am amused by 'round earth claimers' who use science like a weapon against flat earthers, clearly not knowing that science was once the bedfellow of this belief as well.

Science now has other bedfellows, and it has a " Fan base", which I think Atheism is part of, latching themselves to it as if they are partners. They root for science and treat it like religions treat their gods. A different type of worship.

But science was once the child of the church, its main mission used to be " A search for the divine."

Again I ask, so what?

[mickiel]

Atheism does not predate Theism, because it came from it. Explain to me how there could be an Atheist, without there first being a Theist?

A - Without
Theism - Belief in god

Atheism - Without belief in god/lack of belief in god

Does one have to know about god before not-believing in it? Or would that be the default position?

Atheism came from Theism, and its absolutely nothing you can do or say to change that. Atheism is the child of Theism, one could not exist without the other.