Science was once a child of the church.

[mickiel]

What debate?

If its not one now, it will become one. I debate Christians everyday, because I disagree with them so much, as I do some atheist. If you don't like the term debate, I am open to another term.

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Well then I am unstable. And been that way a long time.

You and a billion others.
Funny thing isn't it: How easy it is to prove god's existence to only yourself.

Its easy because the evidence is so overwhelming. I think with anything, its best to prove it to yourself first.

[Rampant.A.I.]

What debate?

If its not one now, it will become one. I debate Christians everyday, because I disagree with them so much, as I do some atheist. If you don't like the term debate, I am open to another term.

How about "baseless assertions replies fully ignored as nominally germane," or B.A.R.F.I.N.G., for short?

[Losty]

What debate?

If its not one now, it will become one. I debate Christians everyday, because I disagree with them so much, as I do some atheist. If you don't like the term debate, I am open to another term.

I don't have a problem with it. I just don't see much of a debate here, besides maybe a couple of side debates from comments.

You're an interesting guy for sure. I think you'll be alright here, this is a very tolerant forum I think. Welcome to the forum. Have some cookies.

[Cinjin]

You and a billion others.
Funny thing isn't it: How easy it is to prove god's existence to only yourself.

Its easy because the evidence is so overwhelming. I think with anything, its best to prove it to yourself first.

Again, easy for yourself. Evidence for yourself.Overwhelming for yourself. No one else.

Sorry Mickiel, its all baseless assertions pal.

[Rampant.A.I.]

What debate?

If its not one now, it will become one. I debate Christians everyday, because I disagree with them so much, as I do some atheist. If you don't like the term debate, I am open to another term.

How about "baseless assertions replies fully ignored as nominally germane," or B.A.R.F.I.N.G., for short?

[mickiel]

If its not one now, it will become one. I debate Christians everyday, because I disagree with them so much, as I do some atheist. If you don't like the term debate, I am open to another term.

I don't have a problem with it. I just don't see much of a debate here, besides maybe a couple of side debates from comments.

You're an interesting guy for sure. I think you'll be alright here, this is a very tolerant forum I think. Welcome to the forum. Have some cookies.

Well thank you, actually I agree with you, being my first day here, I wanted to start a topic that was more of a introduction to the place and get a feel for how discussion is here. I did not do that at the first atheist site I joined, I came in guns blazing and firing away.

I think that was a mistake.

So I just thought of a subject that may be interesting and a little stirring, but not threatening.

[Ravenshire]

I think that can only be true with humans who were before the time of Adam; which I believe existed, the scientific and Archaeological evidence is there. But I understand many here do not believe in God, thus in Adam, so I did not go there. I see civilization, or modern man, beginning with a knowledge and awareness of God, but that argument is useless on an Atheist board.

In the 7th millennium BC, Jiahu culture began in China.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ancient_history

Kinda pre-dates A&E or the Garden of Eden (approx. 6,000 years ago/4th millennium bc)

I did the caps out of respect, but it shall be as you wish, atheist.

Glad to see at least one theist who can claim something other than ignorance for that particular mistake.

BTW, my name's not "atheist."

No, I am not that good at it. Just slightly below average.

Slightly? Took me seconds to find that bit about human culture pre-dating A&E by three thousand years and I'm no great researcher.

I don't know what God is , don't know his name or him. I am not Christian, so I do not believe in their trinity.

To capitalize God as you do denotes a jewish or a christer faith of one denomination of another. It is a proper name. Leaving it lowercase is the correct and generic term for any and all other gods ever created by humanity.

And proving God is not a grandiose thing to do, its quite simple. But its better to prove him to ones self, than somebodyelse.

Bullshit. Unless you have some seriously strong evidence for this claim.

[Cinjin]

So I just thought of a subject that may be interesting and a little stirring, but not threatening.

Some of the members here are quite brilliant and although I agree with Losty in that I think you could do just fine here once you learn your way around, I don't think you could ever bring something to us that was threatening.

[mickiel]

Its easy because the evidence is so overwhelming. I think with anything, its best to prove it to yourself first.

Again, easy for yourself. Evidence for yourself.Overwhelming for yourself. No one else.

Sorry Mickiel, its all baseless assertions pal.

Right, in my view, its a personal thing. It has to make sense to me. Like science and the church, I see science becoming jealous of the church, and I still see that in them. BUT, I see the same jealousy in the Church for science in history, they knew the people were starting to BELIEVE science, because it was finding truth; truth that the Pope had nothing to do with.

So science is not so personal as understanding the existence of God; that is a thing that requires a conscious opening of unusual terms. Even most believers in God do not believe his existence can be proven; I disagree with them all the time. They take it on faith; I have no faith, so I needed the facts.

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I think that can only be true with humans who were before the time of Adam; which I believe existed, the scientific and Archaeological evidence is there. But I understand many here do not believe in God, thus in Adam, so I did not go there. I see civilization, or modern man, beginning with a knowledge and awareness of God, but that argument is useless on an Atheist board.

In the 7th millennium BC, Jiahu culture began in China.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ancient_history

Kinda pre-dates A&E or the Garden of Eden (approx. 6,000 years ago/4th millennium bc)

I did the caps out of respect, but it shall be as you wish, atheist.

Glad to see at least one theist who can claim something other than ignorance for that particular mistake.

BTW, my name's not "atheist."

No, I am not that good at it. Just slightly below average.

Slightly? Took me seconds to find that bit about human culture pre-dating A&E by three thousand years and I'm no great researcher.

I don't know what God is , don't know his name or him. I am not Christian, so I do not believe in their trinity.

To capitalize God as you do denotes a jewish or a christer faith of one denomination of another. It is a proper name. Leaving it lowercase is the correct and generic term for any and all other gods ever created by humanity.

And proving God is not a grandiose thing to do, its quite simple. But its better to prove him to ones self, than somebodyelse.

Bullshit. Unless you have some seriously strong evidence for this claim.

Well I use caps, you use cursing; we treat the written language as we do. Viva la difference! I believe in god, I am not christian or jew, and I can stop using caps. Question, do I have to stop using them in the first word of a sentence ? What does that denote, using caps in the first word? What does that make me?

[Ravenshire]

Even most believers in God do not believe his existence can be proven; I disagree with them all the time. They take it on faith; I have no faith, so I needed the facts.

So, what facts did you find that "prove" your gawd? Even if it is only a "personal proof" (whatever the hell that is).