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RE: Anomaly of God ! (Read)
June 18, 2014 at 3:59 pm
(June 18, 2014 at 3:56 pm)reality Wrote: FatAndFaithless here are the answers :
1)What is "God" doing right now ?
2)How does "God" look like ?
3)Can "God" commit sucide ?
4)Can "God" create something smarter than him ? Why ?
5)Is "God" tired of "Eternity" ?
6)If "God" is so "Good" why he created DINOSAURS (aggressive creatures) ?
1)He is not existing
2)He looks like he does not exist
3)Something that does not exist cannot be killed
4)First of all He is not a smart one
5)Something that is created by Humans does not have feelings.So it can't get tired
6)Because Nature said to him do it
Religion does not die 1 time. Religion dies a lot of times.
I'm..not sure what you're trying to accomplish here. I thought you made the list as to pose each question to a theist and see their responses, not simply assert all the answers regardless of their answers.
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RE: Anomaly of God ! (Read)
June 18, 2014 at 10:54 pm
(June 18, 2014 at 3:32 pm)FatAndFaithless Wrote: Oof... I'd recommend trying to avoid these kind of super truncated lists with scare quotes and caps lock. It's very similar to the Christians who say things like "SOMETHING can't come from NOTHING! Checkmate atheists!"
Anyway, I don't think most of your list is applicable to most theists (whose hat I am donning for the moment). Here are a few issues with these types of questions.
1) No theists I've ever encountered has claimed to know anything about what God is doing or isn't doing at this point in time. Mainly they focus on the scriptures they have about/from their God, which has occurred in the past.
2) Again, most theists will simply say they don't know, or that he is indescribable by human terms, or that he is more of a 'force' and not an entity, etc. If you go by certain devotional artwork, he appears to be a beared white male (with some kickin' abs I might say), but saying "you have to know what God looks like to believe in him" I think is kind of irrelevant.
3) and 4) are both at face value questioning the contradictions of omnipotence in the God concept, which has been discussed many times by atheists and believers alike (my favorite is "can God make a burrito so hot he himself cannot eat it?). Some might argue that God can violate the logical absolutes, as they are contingent upon his will in the first place. Others might simply claim not to know what God is capable of in any specific situation, as he is beyond human understanding. Again, this kind of questioning is useful to point out logical inconsistencies in some belief systems, but apologists are well equipped to squirm out of the question.
5) Goes back to number 1), most theists don't claim to have knowledge of God's feelings in a present tense, as he is outside of our realm of understanding. Plus, as he supposedly exists outside of 'time and space', the concept of eternity might have hugely different imlpications as experience by God, who doesn't experience time like humans do.
6) I have no idea what you mean by posing this question... The entirety of nature is filled with aggressive animals which prey on others, that's just what nature is. If you're trying to import a sort of moral code onto nature, I think that's not the best idea, as many theists would claim that humans are the special creation of God, and comparing humans to other animals is irrelevant.
Just my input, have a good one!
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RE: Anomaly of God ! (Read)
June 18, 2014 at 11:06 pm
(June 18, 2014 at 3:24 pm)Elskidor Wrote: I've heard some claim that dinosaurs aren't real and never existed. I guess it is just part of a a major conspiracy to screw with religion.
Seriously have not heard that one before.
hmm I must be an atheist, wait I already knew that.
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RE: Anomaly of God ! (Read)
June 19, 2014 at 1:40 am
(June 18, 2014 at 10:54 pm)Lek Wrote: (June 18, 2014 at 3:32 pm)FatAndFaithless Wrote: Oof... I'd recommend trying to avoid these kind of super truncated lists with scare quotes and caps lock. It's very similar to the Christians who say things like "SOMETHING can't come from NOTHING! Checkmate atheists!"
Anyway, I don't think most of your list is applicable to most theists (whose hat I am donning for the moment). Here are a few issues with these types of questions.
1) No theists I've ever encountered has claimed to know anything about what God is doing or isn't doing at this point in time. Mainly they focus on the scriptures they have about/from their God, which has occurred in the past.
2) Again, most theists will simply say they don't know, or that he is indescribable by human terms, or that he is more of a 'force' and not an entity, etc. If you go by certain devotional artwork, he appears to be a beared white male (with some kickin' abs I might say), but saying "you have to know what God looks like to believe in him" I think is kind of irrelevant.
3) and 4) are both at face value questioning the contradictions of omnipotence in the God concept, which has been discussed many times by atheists and believers alike (my favorite is "can God make a burrito so hot he himself cannot eat it?). Some might argue that God can violate the logical absolutes, as they are contingent upon his will in the first place. Others might simply claim not to know what God is capable of in any specific situation, as he is beyond human understanding. Again, this kind of questioning is useful to point out logical inconsistencies in some belief systems, but apologists are well equipped to squirm out of the question.
5) Goes back to number 1), most theists don't claim to have knowledge of God's feelings in a present tense, as he is outside of our realm of understanding. Plus, as he supposedly exists outside of 'time and space', the concept of eternity might have hugely different imlpications as experience by God, who doesn't experience time like humans do.
6) I have no idea what you mean by posing this question... The entirety of nature is filled with aggressive animals which prey on others, that's just what nature is. If you're trying to import a sort of moral code onto nature, I think that's not the best idea, as many theists would claim that humans are the special creation of God, and comparing humans to other animals is irrelevant.
Just my input, have a good one!
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RE: Anomaly of God ! (Read)
June 19, 2014 at 1:43 am
(June 18, 2014 at 3:16 pm)reality Wrote: You don't have a reason to believe in God , if you can't answer these questions :
1)What is "God" doing right now ?
2)How does "God" look like ?
3)Can "God" commit suicide ?
4)Can "God" create something smarter than him ? Why ?
5)Is "God" tired of "Eternity" ?
6)If "God" is so "Good" why he created DINOSAURS (aggressive creatures) ?
... Now you're just asking them to make shit up! 
Is your premise that because you know they have imaginations, that they'll take the bait? Let's find out.
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RE: Anomaly of God ! (Read)
June 19, 2014 at 4:43 am
Is there a video of the fight between the angels in heaven?
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RE: Anomaly of God ! (Read)
June 19, 2014 at 5:08 am
Quote:1)What is "God" doing right now ?
Darning His holy socks.
Quote:2)How does "God" look like ?
Zoe Saldana.
Quote: 3)Can "God" commit suicide ?
No, He has an electric oven.
Quote:4)Can "God" create something smarter than him ? Why ?
Yes. Me. Because.
Quote: 5)Is "God" tired of "Eternity" ?
No, but I'll wager fair odds that he's bloody fed up with YOU.
Quote:6)If "God" is so "Good" why he created DINOSAURS (aggressive creatures) ?
Dinosaurs were no more aggressive than any other animals. He created them to confound mathematicients.
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RE: Anomaly of God ! (Read)
June 20, 2014 at 4:42 am
God created dinosaurs because he didn't know how to create chickens. It took him hundreds of millions of years to get the chicken done right.
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RE: Anomaly of God ! (Read)
June 20, 2014 at 4:47 am
plus KFD didn't have a good ring to it...
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RE: Anomaly of God ! (Read)
June 20, 2014 at 4:50 am
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