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RE: Is Evolution a science or a faith?
July 28, 2014 at 8:06 pm
"The greatest deception men suffer is from their own opinions" - Leonardo da Vinci
"I think I use the term “radical” rather loosely, just for emphasis. If you describe yourself as “atheist,” some people will say, “Don’t you mean ‘agnostic’?” I have to reply that I really do mean atheist, I really do not believe that there is a god; in fact, I am convinced that there is not a god (a subtle difference). I see not a shred of evidence to suggest that there is one ... etc., etc. It’s easier to say that I am a radical atheist, just to signal that I really mean it, have thought about it a great deal, and that it’s an opinion I hold seriously." - Douglas Adams (and I echo the sentiment)
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RE: Is Evolution a science or a faith?
July 28, 2014 at 8:34 pm
(July 28, 2014 at 12:13 am)Harris Wrote: (July 26, 2014 at 2:43 pm)Stimbo Wrote: Even discounting your ludicrous and pig-headed adamant insistence that atheism is a faith despite being informed repeatedly by those who identify as atheists that it's not - are you conceding that faith is a weak position to adopt?
If Atheism is not a FAITH at all or say LACK of FAITH in God then how your mind adopted the concept that God does not exist. Funny isn’t it?
Please quote a single post of mine in which I ever said anything approaching this.
At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist. This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair. Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second. That means there's a situation vacant.'
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RE: Is Evolution a science or a faith?
July 29, 2014 at 8:15 am
(This post was last modified: July 29, 2014 at 8:49 am by Thumpalumpacus.)
(July 28, 2014 at 6:55 am)Harris Wrote: DNA do not and cannot produce new specie out of existing specie. DNA can produce varied specie but in same specie.
What mechanism do you assert is in place which stops variations from continuing on building up until a new species exists?
eta: with apologies to Bibliophagus, I just caught up to his identical question earlier in this thread.
(July 28, 2014 at 6:55 am)Harris Wrote: Fossil record is incomplete not because Palaeontologists have not collected sufficient amount of fossil but because fossil record lacks fossils of transitional animals. Out of millions of records, not a single fossil has been declared to be a transitional animal.
Demonstrably false.
(July 28, 2014 at 6:55 am)Harris Wrote: [...] if you find such a claim then it is purely based on conjecture and would not be able to provide any hard scientific fact on which scientists around the world would be agreed unequivocally.
If unevuivocal agreement is the standard for determining the veracity of a claim, then we can say with certainty that all religions, yours included, are wrong.
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RE: Is Evolution a science or a faith?
July 29, 2014 at 11:04 am
(July 29, 2014 at 8:15 am)Thumpalumpacus Wrote: What mechanism do you assert is in place which stops variations from continuing on building up until a new species exists?
eta: with apologies to Bibliophagus, I just caught up to his identical question earlier in this thread.
No worries mate! I think you phrased it a lot better and I hope you get an answer.
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RE: Is Evolution a science or a faith?
July 29, 2014 at 12:45 pm
(July 28, 2014 at 4:20 pm)Bad Wolf Wrote: He's put me on ignore, what a dick.
He hasn't me so if I quote you....
You can fix ignorance, you can't fix stupid.
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RE: Is Evolution a science or a faith?
July 29, 2014 at 12:46 pm
I'm not sure if he has or if he is just ignorning me
'The more I learn about people the more I like my dog'- Mark Twain
'You can have all the faith you want in spirits, and the afterlife, and heaven and hell, but when it comes to this world, don't be an idiot. Cause you can tell me you put your faith in God to put you through the day, but when it comes time to cross the road, I know you look both ways.' - Dr House
“Young earth creationism is essentially the position that all of modern science, 90% of living scientists and 98% of living biologists, all major university biology departments, every major science journal, the American Academy of Sciences, and every major science organization in the world, are all wrong regarding the origins and development of life….but one particular tribe of uneducated, bronze aged, goat herders got it exactly right.” - Chuck Easttom
"If my good friend Doctor Gasparri speaks badly of my mother, he can expect to get punched.....You cannot provoke. You cannot insult the faith of others. You cannot make fun of the faith of others. There is a limit." - Pope Francis on freedom of speech
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RE: Is Evolution a science or a faith?
July 29, 2014 at 1:06 pm
The title of the thread is a stupid fucking question. NO evolution is not a faith, it is a scientific provable fact and DNA backs it up. Just like gravity is a fact and jumping off a building with nothing to aid your fall can prove that.
It is why and dogs and elephants and humans are all called mammals. If you cannot accept that that makes you a fucking idiot.
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RE: Is Evolution a science or a faith?
July 29, 2014 at 1:24 pm
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RE: Is Evolution a science or a faith?
July 29, 2014 at 1:39 pm
Good effort but he'll just ignore it all. And if he does ever reply it will be to just one or two sentences whilst skipping everything he doesn't understand and can't answer.
'The more I learn about people the more I like my dog'- Mark Twain
'You can have all the faith you want in spirits, and the afterlife, and heaven and hell, but when it comes to this world, don't be an idiot. Cause you can tell me you put your faith in God to put you through the day, but when it comes time to cross the road, I know you look both ways.' - Dr House
“Young earth creationism is essentially the position that all of modern science, 90% of living scientists and 98% of living biologists, all major university biology departments, every major science journal, the American Academy of Sciences, and every major science organization in the world, are all wrong regarding the origins and development of life….but one particular tribe of uneducated, bronze aged, goat herders got it exactly right.” - Chuck Easttom
"If my good friend Doctor Gasparri speaks badly of my mother, he can expect to get punched.....You cannot provoke. You cannot insult the faith of others. You cannot make fun of the faith of others. There is a limit." - Pope Francis on freedom of speech
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RE: Is Evolution a science or a faith?
July 29, 2014 at 2:10 pm
(July 29, 2014 at 1:39 pm)Bad Wolf Wrote: Good effort but he'll just ignore it all. And if he does ever reply it will be to just one or two sentences whilst skipping everything he doesn't understand and can't answer.
He would do this
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Then say I have showed no evidence.
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