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July 8, 2014 at 9:15 pm
(July 8, 2014 at 8:22 pm)Blackout Wrote: Portugal. We are considered a relatively 'poor' country and are in a crisis, there are growing social inequalities, but still our minimum wage is 475€, I don't know how to explain how much that is worth, but I can tell you a very cheap house rent costs 200€, add the 100€ for taxes of social security and IRS and electricity, water...
Around here, "cheap" rent starts at around US$700, which is about 515€. Minimum wage is higher than the federal minimum wage ($9.10/hr in Oregon, $9.32/hr in Washington [I live near the border, live in one state, work in the other]). Minimum wage ends up being in the neighborhood of $1300/month take home if you can actually *get* 40 hours a week, but it's damn hard to live on that because of the cost of living. Have kids? You're fucked.
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July 8, 2014 at 9:21 pm
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Cthulu is a NW f'ing hippy - not even the same country -the rest of us make do with federal minimum wage (when we can even get that). What a whiner, complaining from his position of privelege.
(I'm guessing that the math is dismal...and not at all what Black expected)
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RE: These Greedy Cocksuckers Never Change Their Story
July 8, 2014 at 9:27 pm
(July 8, 2014 at 4:37 pm)KUSA Wrote: What SHOULD the minimum wage be per hour in the US right now?
http://www.raisetheminimumwage.com/facts/
$10.90 to keep pace with inflation over the last 40 years. However, that doesn't get anyone ahead. That's 40 years running in place on a treadmill.
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July 8, 2014 at 9:42 pm
(July 8, 2014 at 9:21 pm)Rhythm Wrote: Cthulu is a NW f'ing hippy - not even the same country -the rest of us make do with federal minimum wage (when we can even get that). What a whiner, complaining from his position of privelege.
Amigo, I haven't made minimum wage since the 1980's - I whine on behalf of my compadres.
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July 8, 2014 at 9:42 pm
(July 8, 2014 at 9:15 pm)Cthulhu Dreaming Wrote: (July 8, 2014 at 8:22 pm)Blackout Wrote: Portugal. We are considered a relatively 'poor' country and are in a crisis, there are growing social inequalities, but still our minimum wage is 475€, I don't know how to explain how much that is worth, but I can tell you a very cheap house rent costs 200€, add the 100€ for taxes of social security and IRS and electricity, water...
Around here, "cheap" rent starts at around US$700, which is about 515€. Minimum wage is higher than the federal minimum wage ($9.10/hr in Oregon, $9.32/hr in Washington [I live near the border, live in one state, work in the other]). Minimum wage ends up being in the neighborhood of $1300/month take home if you can actually *get* 40 hours a week, but it's damn hard to live on that because of the cost of living. Have kids? You're fucked.
Yeah we're having a lack of young population crisis, it has been lasting for 10/20 years, but I guess with unemployment near 20% it's safe to not bring kids into such misery. I'm glad I can still consider myself middle class, it's a rare thing nowadays, kinda like being born black with blond hair.
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July 8, 2014 at 9:46 pm
(July 8, 2014 at 9:42 pm)Cthulhu Dreaming Wrote: (July 8, 2014 at 9:21 pm)Rhythm Wrote: Cthulu is a NW f'ing hippy - not even the same country -the rest of us make do with federal minimum wage (when we can even get that). What a whiner, complaining from his position of privelege.
Amigo, I haven't made minimum wage since the 1980's - I whine on behalf of my compadres.
Though - come to think of it - once I dole out what I voluntarily pay in child support, there ain't much left beyond minimum wage. Nice guy, or chump, you decide.
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RE: These Greedy Cocksuckers Never Change Their Story
July 8, 2014 at 9:49 pm
(July 8, 2014 at 9:42 pm)Blackout Wrote: (July 8, 2014 at 9:15 pm)Cthulhu Dreaming Wrote: Around here, "cheap" rent starts at around US$700, which is about 515€. Minimum wage is higher than the federal minimum wage ($9.10/hr in Oregon, $9.32/hr in Washington [I live near the border, live in one state, work in the other]). Minimum wage ends up being in the neighborhood of $1300/month take home if you can actually *get* 40 hours a week, but it's damn hard to live on that because of the cost of living. Have kids? You're fucked.
Yeah we're having a lack of young population crisis, it has been lasting for 10/20 years, but I guess with unemployment near 20% it's safe to not bring kids into such misery. I'm glad I can still consider myself middle class, it's a rare thing nowadays, kinda like being born black with blond hair.
We hovered at around 10% unemployment while the rest of the country "recovered", so to speak. Actual numbers were higher of course - they stop counting you when you stop looking.
20%? Fuck, that's horrible. I can't even imagine. I'm lucky, I've managed to stay employed during every recession during my adult life, if you except the times when I was young and not really that interested in working.
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RE: These Greedy Cocksuckers Never Change Their Story
July 8, 2014 at 10:02 pm
(July 8, 2014 at 9:49 pm)Cthulhu Dreaming Wrote: (July 8, 2014 at 9:42 pm)Blackout Wrote: Yeah we're having a lack of young population crisis, it has been lasting for 10/20 years, but I guess with unemployment near 20% it's safe to not bring kids into such misery. I'm glad I can still consider myself middle class, it's a rare thing nowadays, kinda like being born black with blond hair.
We hovered at around 10% unemployment while the rest of the country "recovered", so to speak. Actual numbers were higher of course - they stop counting you when you stop looking.
20%? Fuck, that's horrible. I can't even imagine. I'm lucky, I've managed to stay employed during every recession during my adult life, if you except the times when I was young and not really that interested in working.
Some statistics show a 1% improvement and so on... This is fallacious because the only people who count as unemployed are the ones registered in social security, plus adding the people emigrating it's logical that with less population the percentage of unemployment will seem lower. We aren't actually at 20%, Spain is a lot worse, but if we counted retired people (a lot), people who don't look for jobs and are not registered in social security as unemployed, people who live on welfare, illegal immigrants, and people who stopped receiving unemployment pension because it only lasts for 2 years, I'd corroborate one of my professors' views that basically we have 1/2 or 1/3 of the population working for the remaining people. If we calculated the real unemployment rate it would be worse than 20%, and I'm not even counting people in temporary jobs that can lose their position anytime
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