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And nary a fucking ark to be seen....
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RE: And nary a fucking ark to be seen....
(August 11, 2014 at 8:40 pm)Chuck Wrote:
(August 11, 2014 at 7:12 pm)Lemonvariable72 Wrote: Not quite true. To my knowledge all feathered dinosaurs are ceolosuarian, meaning that they are descendants of one small Triassic dinosaur. Ceolosuarian cover a large range of theropods that eat either meat or plants. We do known however that this does not cover all dinosaurs as all ceolosuarian are orithosrithian ( forgive my spelling) and there are still saurischians as well. As well we have carnosaurs which are a whole other lineage of animals.


You have it backwards. Birds and theropods are saurischians, not ornithischians, despite the name. Ornithischians have a hip structure superficially similar to birds, but they are otherwise much less similar to birds than saurischians.

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I realized that after I read your post. Also you may find this interesting. http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Protoavis
I'm skeptical of this find but it does pique my interest.
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RE: And nary a fucking ark to be seen....
The protoavis theory was actually rooted in the denial of dinosaur - bird relationship, and postulated that bird actually evolved separately from another as yet undiscovered branch of archosaurs family, maybe closer to alligators, well before the development of first dinosaurs. But it has been pretty thoroughly discredited by recent discoveries, so much so that even Chatterjee, the Discoverer of protoavis and chief proponent of protoavis theory, doesn't believe in it anymore.

The bird to dinosaur theory is different, it actually suggests the very first saurischian dinosaurs, possibly even the very first dinosaur of any kind, already possessed feather and flight capability. Some descendant lineages of the first flying dinosaurs secondarily lost flight capability and became purely terrestrial dinosaurs we all know. Others kept on flying right through Mesozoic and became modern birds. So bird to dino theory supports a close relationship between birds and Dinos, differing from mainstream theory of bird evolution only in how long dinosaurs went on before evolving flight capability. Mainstream theory says quite a long time, maybe 50 million years. Bird to Dino theory says Dinos had flight capability right from the beginning, but most descendants then lost it.
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RE: And nary a fucking ark to be seen....
Chuck, thank you. That answer was spot on to what my mind was wondering. Thank you Smile

So if dinosaurs evolved wings first, then all mammals are descendents of flying creatures? And flying is the ultimate evolutionary trait that allowed for widespread populations. So flying is a natural mechanism evolution wise.?
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RE: And nary a fucking ark to be seen....
(August 11, 2014 at 4:24 am)Quantum1Connect Wrote: Dude, like the grand canyon is totally proof of the arc and the flood. Like...why would there be a grand canyon?

On a more serious note, that finding is pretty awesome. I remember in fourth grade being absolutely obsessed with dinosaurs until my father told me I was checking out too many books from the library on dinosaurs at once. Haha

On a less serious note, I love chickens and I plan to eat some eggs tomorrow with cheese. Oh, I can't wait till morning.

Who isn't obsessed with Dinos when they're young? They are the coolest thing evvvveeeerrrrr!!! I reaally wanted to ride one...

Until I figured out they probably will eat me. Big Grin
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