"Gospel Quest" (or The Jesus Timeline)

[Tonus]

Luke 11:9-13

“So I say to you: Ask and it will be given to you; seek and you will find; knock and the door will be opened to you. For everyone who asks receives; the one who seeks finds; and to the one who knocks, the door will be opened.
“Which of you fathers, if your son asks for a fish, will give him a snake instead? Or if he asks for an egg, will give him a scorpion? If you then, though you are evil, know how to give good gifts to your children, how much more will your Father in heaven give the Holy Spirit to those who ask him!”

I'm thinking that any parent who forces his child to persistently beg for food is pretty cruel.

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In Mark 2:1-12, Jesus heals a paralytic. He had authority to forgive sins, which is something only God Himself can do. Then, to authenticate His claim, He demonstrated His power by healing the paralytic.

So god can forgive sins without requiring a blood sacrifice?

[Minimalist]

You can read the website's explanation.

I did read it. I'm still laughing.

When are you going to catch on to the reality that just because some jesus freak numbskull invents an excuse I am under no obligation to buy it? How many times have you bought the Brooklyn Bridge in your life? You seem to be easily fooled.

[Cyberman]

I can't stand behind the website 100% (it's not scripture), but you might find it interesting. It involves science (imagine that)!

Yes, imagine that. Imagine the website's author(s) actually using astronomical science, instead of merely invoking science in order to make some very dodgy and unsubstantiated leaps of faith.

Larson uses a professional astronomy program to determine the stars' formation at the time of Jesus' birth.

He used Starry Night, an off-the-shelf astronomy and planetarium package. So did I in my analysis of his 'evidence', which I'm sure captured your interest.

But the professionalism of the software makes no difference to the conclusions that are drawn from the results. Garbage in, garbage out.

Oh, and "star formation"? Please tell me you misspoke.

It included one star/planet (Jupiter) coming into conjunction with several others, touching the Leo and Virgin constellations.

Well, more or less, yes, around 3-2 BCE. Completely ignoring all gospels.

Thus, the Magi would interpret royalty (Jupiter) from the tribe of Judah (Leo/lion). And they would go to the palace in Jerusalem and ask Herod if he knew anything about this king, which is exactly what they did.

And "the Magi" would not have been the only astrologers active in that part of the world. Why didn't hundreds of them turn up?

[Minimalist]

Undeceived Wrote: When an astrophysicist publishes an article, is it a straight line of facts, or is it an interpretation of the facts?

The point is there are facts, involved. Where are your "facts?" All I see is bullshit and wishful thinking.