EM drive actually works???? EAT THAT NEWTONIANS!

[Mystical]

[vorlon13]

Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.

Maybe China could put one on a satellite and use it for station keeping ?

[Mystical]

NASA confirmed the evidence dear vorlon.

[Neo-Scholastic]

Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.

Bullshit! The whole point of the scientific method is that it eliminates subjective value judgments, like what is or is not "extraordinary".

[Minimalist]

Guido Fetta.

I don't know if I could trust a scientist with that name. Maybe a chef.

[Cato]

Guido Fetta.

I don't know if I could trust a scientist with that name. Maybe a chef.

Only if he's sous chef to Enrico Fermi.

[Anomalocaris]

Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.

Bullshit! The whole point of the scientific method is that it eliminates subjective value judgments, like what is or is not "extraordinary".

Er, no.

Extraordinary is quite objective and quantifiable. It describes a claim or an appearent observation which is statistically highly improbable in the sense of being many standard deviations away from what one has been led to expect from large available body of other verifiable observations.

When you make a claim against such an overwhelming body of evidence, your claim is extraordinary. You need to provide proof extraordinary enough to be able to stand against the accumulated body of apparently contrary evidence. This is the whole statistical statistical essence of modern science, with its basis in the objective, quantifiable confidence intervals of experimental result.

Don't pretend your ulterior motive is other than to try to pretend your ridiculous claims on behalf of your swedenborgian bullshit can be placed on the same basis as science and the statistic principles behind modern experimental science does not exist to call you out. Now go and masturbate somewhere else.

[Zen Badger]

Three different and independent groups have tested the principle and gotten positive results.

It this isn't science, I don't know what is.

[Anomalocaris]

Independent verification is science, but it is not necessarily proof. Proof depends on the quality and reproducibility of the verification.

Cold fusion was also allegedly independently verified by other groups, until it was found the verifications themselves can't be replicated.

My money is on EMdrive being more like cold fusion than a path to Nobel prize.

[pocaracas]

I don't get it... why shouldn't it work?
EM radiation has a clearly defined linear momentum.
Isn't this sort of the same principle as the solar sail?