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RE: Okay seriously
August 11, 2014 at 8:17 pm
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(August 11, 2014 at 5:50 pm)Thinking Christian Wrote: Every dictator was/is an atheist. Stalin, Mao, Mussolini, both Ils, Castro, Hitler (the Bible says the Jews are God's chosen people, he was a liar) and many more. Does that not make you a LITTLE suspicious?
Most in the 20th century. You now have a few Moslem dictators, but even then, most of the dictators of those nations during that same time were in fact nonbelievers.
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RE: Okay seriously
August 11, 2014 at 8:22 pm
And there you have the very embodiment of Poe's Law.
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RE: Okay seriously
August 11, 2014 at 8:25 pm
By definition the pope is a dictator and all kings as well.
Your point?
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RE: Okay seriously
August 11, 2014 at 8:26 pm
(August 11, 2014 at 5:50 pm)Thinking Christian Wrote: Every dictator was/is an atheist. Stalin, Mao, Mussolini, both Ils, Castro, Hitler (the Bible says the Jews are God's chosen people, he was a liar) and many more. Does that not make you a LITTLE suspicious?
Not even a little, because I doubt their atheism was the cause of their views. It's not like we have a book telling us to commit genocide.
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RE: Okay seriously
August 11, 2014 at 8:28 pm
So basically, if I am to explain to little children, the crux of this thread, it would be:
People who don't believe there is a hell are bad because there is no everlasting payback for their actions.
People who do believe in hell want to be bad but aren't because god has blackmailed them into being good.
Philosophy dinosaur asks: why are jails full of Christians?
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RE: Okay seriously
August 11, 2014 at 8:30 pm
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(August 11, 2014 at 8:25 pm)Zen Badger Wrote: By definition the pope is a dictator and all kings as well.
Your point?
The key difference in the definition being the Pope is elected and kings usually earn their power through hereditary succession.
Jails are full of Christians because non-believers turn to faith because they need something to get them through the misery of prison.
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RE: Okay seriously
August 11, 2014 at 8:34 pm
"Jails are full of Christians because non-believers turn to faith because they need something to get them through the misery of prison."
Well, not really. Jails are full of Christians because jails tend to be filled with the poor and uneducated who tend to be, yup, Christian. Incidentally in the USA they tend to be heavily catholic because the demographics of prisons tend to be high in Latinos, who are predominantly catholic.
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RE: Okay seriously
August 11, 2014 at 8:51 pm
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(August 11, 2014 at 8:30 pm)Polaris Wrote: The key difference in the definition being the Pope is elected and kings usually earn their power through hereditary succession.
"Earned" through heredity. 
Incidentally, can the pope be deposed? It's a rhetorical question, I already know he can't. That's a dictator; how they rise to power is never the point. One doesn't begin with an army of followers, after all.
Quote:Jails are full of Christians because non-believers turn to faith because they need something to get them through the misery of prison.
Citation needed, but not expected. I doubt you had one before you made the argument, after all. 
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RE: Okay seriously
August 11, 2014 at 8:57 pm
(August 11, 2014 at 8:30 pm)Polaris Wrote: The key difference in the definition being the Pope is elected and kings usually earn their power through hereditary succession.
An insider elected by a small group of insiders.
Quote:Jails are full of Christians because non-believers turn to faith because they need something to get them through the misery of prison.
Because it makes them look better in front of a parole board, which has a better than even chance of consisting of people who think that being Christian makes you a better person for some reason.
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RE: Okay seriously
August 11, 2014 at 8:58 pm
Jails are full of Christians because Christianity is a morally bankrupt system.
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