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Okay seriously
#31
RE: Okay seriously
(August 11, 2014 at 9:26 pm)Polaris Wrote: No. I just used logic (you should try using it for once) and the fact that Christians told me of their great successes at converting prisoners; it was much more difficult doing the same with the prison guards. The prison guards were open to having the ministry at the prisons because they wanted the clerics to tame the most unruly of inmates.

What's your sample size? Anywhere approaching even half of the prisons in the US? I doubt it, leaving this as an intuitive leap based on what you want to be true, rather than what the data reflects. And that's even assuming I just accept your sources, which I wouldn't, as "christians" is so vague as to be useless.

There's also the fact that your entire support here only fulfills half of what your claim was, even if it was useful data: converted from what? To what? Converted how? See, without establishing these prisoners as non believers all you've really demonstrated is that predatory preachers were able to find people at a vulnerable time in their life and offer them a little merit badge that goes over well with parole boards. Hell, becoming a catholic from a protestant is converting, going from vague, noncommittal deism to any form of christianity is converting.

You say you use logic, but is this really what you think logic is? "A friend of a friend told me..." plus vague language, not to mention the extreme inbuilt bias that comes with christian proselytizers and their habit of piety-bragging. It's like you're overstressing a case that isn't even there, and you say I'm not using logic? Thinking
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#32
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No way...hahahaha
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#33
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(August 11, 2014 at 5:50 pm)Thinking Christian Wrote: Every dictator was/is an atheist. Stalin, Mao, Mussolini, both Ils, Castro, Hitler (the Bible says the Jews are God's chosen people, he was a liar) and many more. Does that not make you a LITTLE suspicious?
"We were convinced that the people needs and requires this faith. We have therefore undertaken the fight against the atheistic movement, and that not merely with a few theoretical declarations: we have stamped it out."
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Every dictator was/is an atheist? Seriously? Every single one? What if I showed you atheists leaders that happens to be a good ruler ha? Or tell me how many religious dictators have been during our history?
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#34
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(August 11, 2014 at 8:30 pm)Polaris Wrote:
(August 11, 2014 at 8:25 pm)Zen Badger Wrote: By definition the pope is a dictator and all kings as well.

Your point?

The key difference in the definition being the Pope is elected and kings usually earn their power through hereditary succession.

Jails are full of Christians because non-believers turn to faith because they need something to get them through the misery of prison.

The pope is elected by a select group of cardinals and the divine right of kings to govern is usually earned through conquest and the connivence of the religious hierarchy. So again they fit the classic definition of dictators.
Anything else?
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#35
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(August 11, 2014 at 5:50 pm)Thinking Christian Wrote: Every dictator was/is an atheist. Stalin, Mao, Mussolini, both Ils, Castro, Hitler (the Bible says the Jews are God's chosen people, he was a liar) and many more. Does that not make you a LITTLE suspicious?

No, does not bother me. Millions more have been killed in the name of god.

Why did they ban this poor bastard? We may have converted him?? Don't ban the believers. They will eventually see the light!
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#36
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(August 13, 2014 at 8:12 pm)jughead Wrote: Why did they ban this poor bastard?
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#37
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(August 11, 2014 at 5:56 pm)Thinking Christian Wrote: Yup he lied to the Christian nation of Germany, but he himself was an atheist for directly opposing the Bible. At best he was a Muslim.

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#38
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(August 13, 2014 at 6:25 am)Zen Badger Wrote:
(August 11, 2014 at 8:30 pm)Polaris Wrote: The key difference in the definition being the Pope is elected and kings usually earn their power through hereditary succession.

Jails are full of Christians because non-believers turn to faith because they need something to get them through the misery of prison.

The pope is elected by a select group of cardinals and the divine right of kings to govern is usually earned through conquest and the connivence of the religious hierarchy. So again they fit the classic definition of dictators.
Anything else?

The definition of dictator (maybe expanded depending on your dictionary you use...mine places an emphasis on a lack of hereditary secession being a trait of a dictatorship) actually omits those.
But if we walk in the light, as He is in the light, we have fellowship with one another, and the blood of Jesus, His Son, purifies us from all sin.
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#39
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Quote:No. I just used logic


Logic is not your friend, polecat. That's because your premises are almost always fucked up.
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#40
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(August 13, 2014 at 11:29 pm)Minimalist Wrote:
Quote:No. I just used logic


Logic is not your friend, polecat. That's because your premises are almost always fucked up.

ROFLOL That's extremely funny coming from you.
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