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A reason why people remain religious
#41
RE: A reason why people remain religious
I wonder why that is? Tell me, who runs a constant smear campaign against the other? Christians or atheists?
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#42
RE: A reason why people remain religious
(August 15, 2014 at 5:21 pm)Mozart Link Wrote: To start off, you might be thinking that people who no longer believe in a God and an afterlife and complain about it are the people to be regarded as weak, immature, etc. when it is actually the exact opposite. The reason many people are whiny is that they are too much of a human being (someone great) to possibly accept that there is no God and afterlife and no longer complain about it or to no longer believe that there is a God and afterlife. They add their own personification as a human being and as someone great to reality itself and this is why they either whine that there is no God or afterlife or still believe that there is a God and an afterlife. In short, people who whine that there is no God or afterlife or who actually believe there is a God and an afterlife are the better people who have a sense of higher purpose/self to possibly stoop so low as to either, again, accept that there is no God and afterlife and not complain, or to no longer believe that there is a God and an afterlife. This sense of higher life and higher self that these people have (that they are special and that this life is special and intended for them or that, at least, they complain that it isn't and that it should be that way anyway), this is what makes these people special and "higher" (great).

Although atheists can still achieve a sense of greatness and being someone special, the fact of the matter is that they are restricted from true greatness as I've just explained since they have stooped so low into a world where, in reality, they are not that great or special as to deserve a God and an afterlife and that this life is not something special in the sense that it was not intended for them and such. It doesn't matter how great and special you think you are if you are an atheist, to realize that, in reality, you are not great and special in this universe is demeaning of yourself because just by giving yourself the message that you are not that great and special, this is demeaning of you as a human being and that is what makes you a lesser person. Therefore, this is why people who have a sense of higher self and such who either complain that there is no God and afterlife or who still arrogantly believe there is a God and afterlife anyway despite much scientific evidence are the better people.

While there is no universal or objective purpose in Atheism, subjective purpose can be high and at the same level of the objective purpose of Theistic philosophies. One can chose to good to oneself and others, and do the utmost to do good to themselves and others, because of the exalted nature they believe about themselves and others deserving that for example, whether they believe in God or not. Just because there is no reward of paradise for one's actions, doesn't diminish what one made out of their lives. It can be said that even good actions with no expectation of reward deserve higher merit and thus have an extra exalted quality then those expecting a reward.
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#43
RE: A reason why people remain religious
(August 16, 2014 at 5:32 pm)MysticKnight Wrote:
(August 15, 2014 at 5:21 pm)Mozart Link Wrote: To start off, you might be thinking that people who no longer believe in a God and an afterlife and complain about it are the people to be regarded as weak, immature, etc. when it is actually the exact opposite. The reason many people are whiny is that they are too much of a human being (someone great) to possibly accept that there is no God and afterlife and no longer complain about it or to no longer believe that there is a God and afterlife. They add their own personification as a human being and as someone great to reality itself and this is why they either whine that there is no God or afterlife or still believe that there is a God and an afterlife. In short, people who whine that there is no God or afterlife or who actually believe there is a God and an afterlife are the better people who have a sense of higher purpose/self to possibly stoop so low as to either, again, accept that there is no God and afterlife and not complain, or to no longer believe that there is a God and an afterlife. This sense of higher life and higher self that these people have (that they are special and that this life is special and intended for them or that, at least, they complain that it isn't and that it should be that way anyway), this is what makes these people special and "higher" (great).

Although atheists can still achieve a sense of greatness and being someone special, the fact of the matter is that they are restricted from true greatness as I've just explained since they have stooped so low into a world where, in reality, they are not that great or special as to deserve a God and an afterlife and that this life is not something special in the sense that it was not intended for them and such. It doesn't matter how great and special you think you are if you are an atheist, to realize that, in reality, you are not great and special in this universe is demeaning of yourself because just by giving yourself the message that you are not that great and special, this is demeaning of you as a human being and that is what makes you a lesser person. Therefore, this is why people who have a sense of higher self and such who either complain that there is no God and afterlife or who still arrogantly believe there is a God and afterlife anyway despite much scientific evidence are the better people.

While there is no universal or objective purpose in Atheism, subjective purpose can be high and at the same level of the objective purpose of Theistic philosophies. One can chose to good to oneself and others, and do the utmost to do good to themselves and others, because of the exalted nature they believe about themselves and others deserving that for example, whether they believe in God or not. Just because there is no reward of paradise for one's actions, doesn't diminish what one made out of their lives. It can be said that even good actions with no expectation of reward deserve higher merit and thus have an extra exalted quality then those expecting a reward.

My bold. Yes there is. It's to counter the prejudice and ignorance that religion spreads.
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#44
RE: A reason why people remain religious
(August 16, 2014 at 5:43 pm)Diablo Wrote:
(August 16, 2014 at 5:32 pm)MysticKnight Wrote: While there is no universal or objective purpose in Atheism, subjective purpose can be high and at the same level of the objective purpose of Theistic philosophies. One can chose to good to oneself and others, and do the utmost to do good to themselves and others, because of the exalted nature they believe about themselves and others deserving that for example, whether they believe in God or not. Just because there is no reward of paradise for one's actions, doesn't diminish what one made out of their lives. It can be said that even good actions with no expectation of reward deserve higher merit and thus have an extra exalted quality then those expecting a reward.

My bold. Yes there is. It's to counter the prejudice and ignorance that religion spreads.

That's not a purpose of Atheism. An Atheist can make that part of their life purpose, but it would be a subjective purpose, not an objective one.
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#45
RE: A reason why people remain religious
ML, would you please just be religious already? Drich, can you help this guy out? Convince him to ASK. I don't think he has a defense against your methods of persuasion.
I'm not anti-Christian. I'm anti-stupid.
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#46
RE: A reason why people remain religious
(August 16, 2014 at 5:58 pm)MysticKnight Wrote:
(August 16, 2014 at 5:43 pm)Diablo Wrote: My bold. Yes there is. It's to counter the prejudice and ignorance that religion spreads.

That's not a purpose of Atheism. An Atheist can make that part of their life purpose, but it would be a subjective purpose, not an objective one.

Diablo I'm afraid MysticKnight is right. Atheism is the non belief in gods or the belief no gods exist, being an atheist doesn't mean you have to fight religion, it just means you don't believe in deities. There are atheists who think religion brings benefits and they might incentive, others won't care about fighting religion at all as long as it doesn't affect their lives.
Whoever fights monsters should see to it that in the process he does not become a monster. And if you gaze long enough into an abyss, the abyss will gaze back into you

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