Again, Too Damn Close To The Truth

[Minimalist]

http://www.newyorker.com/humor/borowitz-...MzM3Mjk4S0

Largest Climate-Change March in History Unlikely to Convince Idiots

Klugian said he was confident that, despite the impressive numbers for Sunday’s march, idiots would prevail in the ongoing climate-change debate. “At the end of the day, there are more people like us in Congress,” he said.

[vorlon13]

And still nary a peep on the decline of the alkalinity of seawater, a FAR greater problem.


We're boned.

[tjakey]

The decline and fall of America is a bit of a puzzle, somehow idiocy became the New Thing. People are proud of being idiots, vote idiots into office, and scoff at those who are not idiots. Even those in power who are probably not idiots (there must be a couple) pander to those who are in order to stay in office.

I laughed at the comment from Hollywood Fl. We are currently at a dock just a few miles from there. More than half the time part of the dock is under water at high tide. One can be sure they were not originally designed to be underwater several hours a day for days at a time, but sea level rise took care of that.

Personally, I don't think a country can recover after it has sunk this far into total stupidity. Some parts of the world will head off into the future leaving the US and the Middle East behind to wallow in fundamentalism and anti-intellectualism. Eventually a failed US will break up, just as is happening in the Middle East now. That is probably a few decades in the future yet, so I will no be around to see it. But I just don't see how any nation can endure that is as bat-shit crazy as this one.

[Minimalist]

Democracy is beautiful in theory; in practice it is a fallacy.
Benito Mussolini

[Mystical]

I agree with new guy. America's not a first world country as we are made to believe. America is not, #1. As we are made to believe. America will never survive the fundies, unfortunately.

[tjakey]

Democracy is beautiful in theory; in practice it is a fallacy.
Benito Mussolini

Then again, in America stupid people are going to the voting booth and electing exactly what they deserve. So maybe democracy is just a really hard thing to do, taking the best efforts of an informed and aware citizenry. Americans are simply not up to the challenge. Or perhaps democracy is less a fallacy and more a seriously flawed system prone to failure.

Then again, maybe any and every country eventually falls to simple corruption and influence peddling; regardless of the type of government it is. The USSR collapsed from it. China is desperately trying to get it under control. The Middle East is rife with it and, as a result, slides every further into chaos. And here in the US the Supreme Court decided that corruption is a right protected by the Constitution.

Regardless, we are done as a first world society on the leading edge of human history.

[The Grand Nudger]

It's unlikely that the dock is underwater due to sea level rise. Very little in Florida has existed long enough to experience that (aside from St. Augustine, obvs). 100 years at the current rates would only give us 3.9 inches - and if that dock was less than 3.9 inches over the water when it was built then even the pansy florida waves would have come over it from the very moment of it's construction.

It's more likely that it has a poorly built foundation (or the sands have shifted from under the pylons) and the owners don;t feel like putting the cash down to float it. Which could be said about the entirety of the state, of course.

[Thumpalumpacus]

America will never survive the fundies, unfortunately.

I disagree.

[tjakey]

It's unlikely that the dock is underwater due to sea level rise. Very little in Florida has existed long enough to experience that (aside from St. Augustine, obvs). 100 years at the current rates would only give us 3.9 inches - and if that dock was less than 3.9 inches over the water when it was built then even the pansy florida waves would have come over it from the very moment of it's construction.

It's more likely that it has a poorly built foundation (or the sands have shifted from under the pylons) and the owners don;t feel like putting the cash down to float it. Which could be said about the entirety of the state, of course.

Well, if the docks are sinking they are going straight down, level, and are taking the parking lot along without cracking anything. And the docks all up and down the New River (so far as I have noticed) are sinking at the same rate. You may be right though, I know the sea level rise is a phenomena that stretches out over decades. Yet, for the near 3 months we have been here, nearly every high tide covers the docks. Even those who have been around here for a long time are talking about.

We will be moving along soon, so it is more a curiosity to me than anything else. After 40 years of flying and now living on the water, the climate change deniers are just a mystery to me.

[The Grand Nudger]

Yup, foundation issues if it's going all the way to the pavement (and evenly). They didn't dredge and anchor, they just carpeted the area. Common all over the state. Your first clue should have been that this is occurring at a steady rate on many of the observed structures -on the river- which is likely undercutting all of the civil works along either bank as well -over time. Tell those motherfuckers to properly float their shit with the fees you pay them - and stop cluttering up Floridas waterways with garbage!

-preferably as you walk out the door...lol, of course....

(those poorly built docks eventually give way causing damage not only to property, but also to the habitats thaty they dredge as they laze their way downstream - eventually ending up out in the deltas where they clutter shit up. They might redeem themselves at the end by becoming reef but because it happens so often - things smashing into the pile..., and because the materials are often exceedingly toxic, they just become a snag that kills the fish and rips your engine off the back of your boat...and I think it;s important not to allow misattribution to get in the way of seeing these docks and the people who build them for who they are and what they're doing -which, unlike global warming, is something that just one single individual can absolutely put an end to by not being such a douche in order to save a dime)