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my new theory about christians
#31
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When love ones die, I am wmotional sad because they are gone from my life on earth, I will never have their company here again. I am not really scared of death, but I am really scared about how my death is going to come about.

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#32
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I do not fear death, not my own nor those of my loved-ones. I have no anxieties concerning how, when, or where my death will occur - I have no say in the matter other than to not purposely put myself or other in death's path. This life is amazing, and I'm looking forward to it being long and wondorous, but only as long as necessary Wink
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#33
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Fearing death is really quite pointless. Some day you will due and there isn't shit you can do about it.
To-morrow, and to-morrow, and to-morrow,
Creeps in this petty pace from day to day,
To the last syllable of recorded time;
And all our yesterdays have lighted fools
The way to dusty death. Out, out, brief candle!
Life's but a walking shadow, a poor player,
That struts and frets his hour upon the stage,
And then is heard no more. It is a tale
Told by an idiot, full of sound and fury,
Signifying nothing.
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#34
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I know there is no point to fearing death, what I mean is I wonder sometimes when is it going to happen.

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#35
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(October 1, 2014 at 2:15 am)Blackrook Wrote: What a stupid, retarded OP. Christians are supposed to want to live as long as possible. Otherwise, we'd all be committing suicide to get to heaven faster. Then you'd call us a death cult, so we can't win either way in the eyes of stupid atheists.

Because that's in the Bible where? And what does doing your duty to live as long as possible have to do with being scared to die?

Catholics make suicide a mortal sin, but Protestants don't, and you don't see a tendency for THEM to be in a hurry to meet Jesus.

I've seen far more 'stupid and retarded' OPs than this one. You need to get out on the internets more if this one impressed you in either direction.

(October 1, 2014 at 2:38 am)Blackrook Wrote: Atheists who don't understand Christians' desire to live are completely ignorant about the religiion Christianity, so their opinions are based on total ignorance and should be disregarded as so much rubbish to be taken to the curb.

Now THAT was stupid and retarded. Bah dump bump!
I'm not anti-Christian. I'm anti-stupid.
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#36
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(September 30, 2014 at 7:58 pm)Jextin Wrote: and im saying this as an ex christian who really wanted a better life in heaven. but anyone else ever notice how Christians spend their whole lives telling others about how much better life is in heaven, but when they or a loved one are sick with a terminal illness they pray their asses off? you know why Christians pray like crazy when they are dying? because they are scared. no matter how many years they spend bsing others, when they look at death in the face they know that this life is all there is.

I love the Mark Twain quote, "Faith is believing something you know ain't true."
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#37
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(October 1, 2014 at 2:58 am)Hezekiah Wrote: Yikes. Well, I might as well get comfortable, this is gonna be one heck of a discussion! Smile

@Blackrook makes a good point. A harsh and boarderline provoking point, but a point nonetheless Wink

Personally, as a Christian, I welcome death whenever it may come. If I was told how I would die, my geniuine response would be, "atleast I had the luxury of seeing it coming". For most human beings, being afraid of the unknown is a normal reaction. And to be honest, death is one of those things that you can read about, feel encouraged by, but still have fear of it because you don't truly know what it is like to die.

Why...that was a thoughtful reply...how refreshing!

(October 1, 2014 at 2:58 am)Hezekiah Wrote: And on the flip side, losing a loved one is never easy. I would probably find myself more joyful than the average Christian/non-Christian if I lost a loved one who was a Christian, not because I didn't love them, but only because in my personal experience I've made my peace with knowing they are in a better place (even if it is absolute nothingness).

When it actually happens, you may find otherwise. It's one thing imagining being happy for them meeting Jesus, another to actually lose them.

(October 1, 2014 at 2:58 am)Hezekiah Wrote: Most Christians are human in this respect.

THANKYOU! You'd be surprised how often our Christian visitors fail to bring up this simple point.

(October 1, 2014 at 2:58 am)Hezekiah Wrote: Very true! I never thought about it like that. Technically though, if a Christian prays for someone not to die, whether they die or live, according to their faith, it's the Will of God.

Why bug God with requests to do what you want instead of what he wants? Shouldn't the prayer ALWAYS be along the lines of 'I know better than to ask you to do anything different from what you're going to do anyway, but please help us stay faithful'?

(October 1, 2014 at 2:58 am)Hezekiah Wrote: Often times when you find a xian who's prayer is "answered" when a loved one survives, they call it a "miracle" because they are under the idea that they intervened the Will of God (and ironically this idea goes against their beliefs). This is usually due to a lack in understanding of their personal faith and unfortunately this has the effect that you mentioned: "they just cannot be wrong [in] whatever they do". Which is quite delusional.

Thanks again. I truly appreciate our more thoughtful visitors.
I'm not anti-Christian. I'm anti-stupid.
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#38
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(October 1, 2014 at 2:15 am)Blackrook Wrote: What a stupid, retarded OP. Christians are supposed to want to live as long as possible. Otherwise, we'd all be committing suicide to get to heaven faster. Then you'd call us a death cult, so we can't win either way in the eyes of stupid atheists.
No I would call you a death cult if you killed others or committed suicides, hmm, which you guys seem to have done already, but it's in the past, or present, or... let's just ignore that part.

Now however if you pray to stay alive, you are doing so against the wishes of your lord for it is he who decides when to call you back. So whenever he calls you, just go, don't pray to stay behind, you must follow his will.
Quote:To know yet to think that one does not know is best; Not to know yet to think that one knows will lead to difficulty.
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#39
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(October 1, 2014 at 12:26 pm)Lek Wrote: Where are all these christians who are dying in fear? The christians I know are not afraid of death. I look forward to death, but not the process that leads up to it. It's normal for people to want to avoid the dying process.

Morphine overdose can do a lot towards making the process less frightening.

Sure it's normal...but many Chrisitans tell us they have no doubt they're going to a place infinitely better than here. Taking too much trouble to avoid death seems like putting off a dream vacation because you'll have to get shots first.

How about: the drive to survive is too powerful for a normal person to overcome with faith?
I'm not anti-Christian. I'm anti-stupid.
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#40
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(October 1, 2014 at 3:55 pm)Mister Agenda Wrote:
(October 1, 2014 at 12:26 pm)Lek Wrote: Where are all these christians who are dying in fear? The christians I know are not afraid of death. I look forward to death, but not the process that leads up to it. It's normal for people to want to avoid the dying process.

Morphine overdose can do a lot towards making the process less frightening.

Sure it's normal...but many Chrisitans tell us they have no doubt they're going to a place infinitely better than here. Taking too much trouble to avoid death seems like putting off a dream vacation because you'll have to get shots first.

How about: the drive to survive is too powerful for a normal person to overcome with faith?

No. Christians have been losing their lives for the faith since the beginning of christianity. Even non-christian soldiers give up their lives in battle because it's their job. Police and firemen do too. I just don't agree with the assertions here that christians are terrified of dying.
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