Christianity in America is so fucked up

[Fidel_Castronaut]

[Cyberman]

Didn't you know?

Bad words = persecution.

[Esquilax]

Huggy is under the illusion that when people swear at him when he acts like an officious, evasive and dishonest person, it's because the swearer is a barbarian who hates him personally, and is persecuting him.

And not because of the evasive dishonesty, for some reason.

[Kitan Etos]

Religion in any country is fucked up.

Religion has become tamer in Europe due to the fact that the majority of the people decided to stop relying upon superstition to guide their daily lives.

Religion in 'Murica is a problem because its people are either too dumb to understand the negative persuasions of religion as controlled by the powerful elite or they are too ignorant to know the difference between fantasy and reality.

[Mr Greene]

Summed up in a word the "American Christians" are Baptists, and you'll get exactly the same level of hatred of existence in general in an English Baptist church as an American one.
Catholics and CofE (High Church at least) tend to be more civilized and these tend to be the predominant groups here, though they still have their rabid groups (Low Church Evangelicals spring instantly to mind)...

[ThomM]

Actually - religion is DYING in the world - it is actually going extinct in a bunch of European countries - and it is suffering its last gasp.

When asked - many young "christians" admit that they don't believe - and only go through the motions to keep peace in the family. But when they have the choice - they ignore that nonsense.

Churches are CLOSING all over the place - congregations are no longer able to support them. IN addition - every major religion in the world has a problem getting enough crooks and cons (I mean ministers) to run the churches that exist on a shoe string. The real cons are having a problem hiding their actions as well.

ANd hat is a BIG problem - because religion is only growing on the areas that cannot afford to support it. Donations to religions (Separating them from charity donations where it is different) have been stagnant - and going down. Donations largely come from older congregation members who are rapidly dying off. Their children simply do not support the nonsense. THey give to real charities - especially food banks and the like. (Interestingly - even the bible says that a rich person must give their money to the poor to be saved - not to a church)

IN many areas - when a church closes - its property is no longer tax exempt - so these buildings are ending up abandoned for taxes.

While it will take another generation - it is obvious that religion will become a minority position - and then die off.

Unlike in the past - REALITY is proving religion to be false - and you cannot argue with reality.

[Lek]

Actually - religion is DYING in the world - it is actually going extinct in a bunch of European countries - and it is suffering its last gasp.

When asked - many young "christians" admit that they don't believe - and only go through the motions to keep peace in the family. But when they have the choice - they ignore that nonsense.

Churches are CLOSING all over the place - congregations are no longer able to support them. IN addition - every major religion in the world has a problem getting enough crooks and cons (I mean ministers) to run the churches that exist on a shoe string. The real cons are having a problem hiding their actions as well.

ANd hat is a BIG problem - because religion is only growing on the areas that cannot afford to support it. Donations to religions (Separating them from charity donations where it is different) have been stagnant - and going down. Donations largely come from older congregation members who are rapidly dying off. Their children simply do not support the nonsense. THey give to real charities - especially food banks and the like. (Interestingly - even the bible says that a rich person must give their money to the poor to be saved - not to a church)

IN many areas - when a church closes - its property is no longer tax exempt - so these buildings are ending up abandoned for taxes.

While it will take another generation - it is obvious that religion will become a minority position - and then die off.

Unlike in the past - REALITY is proving religion to be false - and you cannot argue with reality.

You're wrong abut religion dying out, Thom. In fact, religion is growing at a good clip worldwide, although it is in major decline in Western Europe and also in the US. In fact, while Christianity, Islam and the major eastern religions are experiencing growth, as the number of atheists in the world is in decline while Christianity grows rapidly in places such as China, Korea and the African countries. And, by the way, Christianity doesn't need money to survive and thrive.

As for Europe and here in the US, things don't look very good for Christians as far as numbers go. Who knows, you might have your atheist utopia in a generation or two. But I wouldn't count on it. Throughout history there's been declines and revivals in the church. In the early days Turkey was once the hub of Christianity and England was pagan. Things change. We've been around for 2,000 years and we'll be here till the end.

[Cyberman]

Let's hope that end comes soon.

[Lek]

Let's hope that end comes soon.

We're in agreement for once Stimbo.

[Jenny A]

Let's hope that end comes soon.

We're in agreement for once Stimbo.

I find the idea that there are people cheering for the end of the world creepy and dangerous. Not all Christians are praying for the end, but for those of you who are PLEASE stay out of public office. That's not what we mean by swearing to protect.