Where Jesus (had he existed at all) Fucked Up

[Minimalist]

Watching G-C twist his scrotum into knots in another thread about these bullshit "prophesies" that his fictitious godboy supposedly fulfilled I could not resist pointing out that the Jews ( it is, after all, their fucking book) had a clear set of requirements for their version of the Messiah. Let's see how many the godboy managed to attain.


http://www.simpletoremember.com/articles...andjesus#1

What is the Messiah supposed to accomplish? The Bible says that he will:

A. Build the Third Temple (Ezekiel 37:26-28).

Nope

B. Gather all Jews back to the Land of Israel (Isaiah 43:5-6).

Nope


C. Usher in an era of world peace, and end all hatred, oppression, suffering and disease. As it says: "Nation shall not lift up sword against nation, neither shall man learn war anymore." (Isaiah 2:4)

Nope

D. Spread universal knowledge of the God of Israel, which will unite humanity as one. As it says: "God will be King over all the world—on that day, God will be One and His Name will be One" (Zechariah 14:9).

Nope

The historical fact is that Jesus fulfilled none of these messianic prophecies.

Christians counter that Jesus will fulfill these in the Second Coming, but Jewish sources show that the Messiah will fulfill the prophecies outright, and no concept of a second coming exists.

Jesus...like a bad hitter goes 0 for 4 but xtians claim he'll do better in the next game. Horseshit. A god should be able to pull off everything without having to come back.

[thesummerqueen]

Just had this argument/discussion (against all sense) with my boss.

[Oldandeasilyconfused]

MIn.

It is also my understanding that the Messiah is to be a warrior-priest-king, like David. (assuming HE existed, which is also increasingly unlikely,except possibly as a village chief)

PLUS the Messiah is meant to rule ,not die.


--or have I misunderstood.

[Minimalist]

Yeah - I do love it when xtians try to tell jews how to be jews.

[FadingW]

Here's my problem with prophecies:

1. How do we know if a prophecy is met as opposed to being retconned, reading into the text what isn't there?

2. No time limit. My predictions would be pretty accurate too if we had no determined date by which a judgment call was made on its fulfillment.