Christian Nation?

[genkaus]

Your objection is with the op as the op established this fact, I simply defended the truth of the faith of the men

You went a step further - you concluded from that defense that US is a Christian nation.

that kicked your grandfathers wooden teeth in.

Can you explain that one?

[Minimalist]

You apparently didn't actually read the post, because many of those have attributions.

Now you are assuming that drippy knows what 'attribution' means.

[Simon Moon]

Drich, did you notice few people are being quoted and requoted. There were more people in the continental congress that Franklin, Jefferson and Madison. Never hear them quote William Penn do you? Doesn't fit their narrative. And Thomas Paine, really? He was a pamphleteer. That's like saying Michael Moore represents the mainstream opinion of congress.

FWIW, Johnny Appleseed was a Swedenborgian.

It fits my narrative.

No one is questioning the fact that many of the founding fathers were Christian.

But they (even the Christians) went out of their way to create a secular government.

[Aractus]

Correct, but before that it was originally founded as a British state and hence a Christian state.

So what?

So it was originally colonised as a Christian country.

[Chas]

So what?

So it was originally colonised as a Christian country.

No, there was no Christian country - there was no country at all.

Rather, the motivation behind the founding of colonies was piecemeal and variable. Practical considerations, such as commercial enterprise, overpopulation and the desire for freedom of religion, played their parts. The main waves of settlement came in the 17th century. After 1700 most immigrants to Colonial America arrived as indentured servants—young unmarried men and women seeking a new life in a much richer environment. Between the late 1610s and the American Revolution, the British shipped an estimated 50,000 convicts to its American colonies. The first convicts to arrive pre-dated the arrival of the Mayflower.

[Anomalocaris]

So what?

So it was originally colonised as a Christian country.

Yes, clearly it was not the desire to keep it the collection of nominally christian colonies that made them violently into a country.

[Aractus]

Yes, clearly it was not the desire to keep it the collection of nominally christian colonies that made them violently into a country.

Yes, but without the colonisation the USA as it is today couldn't exist. And that's my point, the country was originally founded by the British. It was changed to a secular government later, but it wasn't founded as one.

[Darkstar]

Yes, but without the colonisation the USA as it is today couldn't exist. And that's my point, the country was originally founded by the British. It was changed to a secular government later, but it wasn't founded as one.

The country was not founded by the British, colonies were founded by the British. It wasn't a country until the British government was kicked out and the new (secular) government of the United States of America was created.

[Chas]

Yes, clearly it was not the desire to keep it the collection of nominally christian colonies that made them violently into a country.

Yes, but without the colonisation the USA as it is today couldn't exist. And that's my point, the country was originally founded by the British. It was changed to a secular government later, but it wasn't founded as one.

The country was founded with a secular government. There is no country until the Constitution is adopted.

You are very confused as to what constitutes a country.

[Anomalocaris]

Actually, the "country" was founded as what appears to have been genuinely animist. It was much, much later violently turned into nominally christian, then somewhat later still again violently turned into nominally secular.