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RE: Peanut Gallery Commentary on the Staff Log of Bannings and such like.
August 24, 2018 at 11:26 am
(August 24, 2018 at 11:22 am)Jörmungandr Wrote: I know the policy lately has been to delete threads like the Popcorn thread for rules violations such as calling out, however my recollection is that these threads were not deleted in the past, but simply closed. Has there been a change in policy in this are, and if so, why? Personally, I preferred that the threads be left up as that seemed more transparent and in line with what I would call the basic ethos of the forum (free expression, no deletions, etc.).
I guess that would depend on why the thread was closed. If it was offensive then it should be deleted.
if it was a technicality then maybe it could stay?
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RE: Peanut Gallery Commentary on the Staff Log of Bannings and such like.
August 24, 2018 at 11:26 am
I can see why they delete calling out threads. Even if no one is able to comment on it once it is closed, if it stays up, the targeted members are still being called out.
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RE: Peanut Gallery Commentary on the Staff Log of Bannings and such like.
August 24, 2018 at 11:30 am
Calling out threads have always been deleted. I made one and it got deleted a few months back.
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RE: Peanut Gallery Commentary on the Staff Log of Bannings and such like.
August 24, 2018 at 11:57 am
Here are two examples of threads that were closed but not deleted for problems of calling out. Perhaps in general they were deleted in the past, but I don't think I'm imagining that many used to be left up and only closed.
https://atheistforums.org/thread-18230.html
https://atheistforums.org/thread-43837.html
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RE: Peanut Gallery Commentary on the Staff Log of Bannings and such like.
August 24, 2018 at 3:01 pm
I think the general rule is to delete threads for calling out. As far as I know this has been the case since at least 2013 when I joined and made a thread about Drich which was then deleted. Occasionally, for whatever reason threads end up not being deleted, whether it’s because the thread generated good discussion or because we believed it to be fairly harmless or even because we just forgot that we usually delete threads for calling out.
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RE: Peanut Gallery Commentary on the Staff Log of Bannings and such like.
August 26, 2018 at 10:12 pm
(August 24, 2018 at 11:22 am)Jörmungandr Wrote: I know the policy lately has been to delete threads like the Popcorn thread for rules violations such as calling out, however my recollection is that these threads were not deleted in the past, but simply closed. Has there been a change in policy in this are, and if so, why? Personally, I preferred that the threads be left up as that seemed more transparent and in line with what I would call the basic ethos of the forum (free expression, no deletions, etc.).
I’m not sure we have a specific policy. I think we usually vote on whether it’s generated discussion that we can warrant storing on the site or if it’s just back and forth about the calling out, which really just takes up space. We do have a general policy of keeping hard thread deletions to a bare minimum, though.
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RE: Peanut Gallery Commentary on the Staff Log of Bannings and such like.
August 26, 2018 at 10:20 pm
(August 26, 2018 at 10:12 pm)Shell B Wrote: (August 24, 2018 at 11:22 am)Jörmungandr Wrote: I know the policy lately has been to delete threads like the Popcorn thread for rules violations such as calling out, however my recollection is that these threads were not deleted in the past, but simply closed. Has there been a change in policy in this are, and if so, why? Personally, I preferred that the threads be left up as that seemed more transparent and in line with what I would call the basic ethos of the forum (free expression, no deletions, etc.).
I’m not sure we have a specific policy. I think we usually vote on whether it’s generated discussion that we can warrant storing on the site or if it’s just back and forth about the calling out, which really just takes up space. We do have a general policy of keeping hard thread deletions to a bare minimum, though.
No judgement, just a question. Could the thread have been moved to R'lyeh?
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RE: Peanut Gallery Commentary on the Staff Log of Bannings and such like.
August 26, 2018 at 10:29 pm
(August 26, 2018 at 10:20 pm)mh.brewer Wrote: (August 26, 2018 at 10:12 pm)Shell B Wrote: I’m not sure we have a specific policy. I think we usually vote on whether it’s generated discussion that we can warrant storing on the site or if it’s just back and forth about the calling out, which really just takes up space. We do have a general policy of keeping hard thread deletions to a bare minimum, though.
No judgement, just a question. Could the thread have been moved to R'lyeh?
If we did that what would even be the point of the no calling out rule? Basically anyone could call out as long as the thread was in r’lyeh
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RE: Peanut Gallery Commentary on the Staff Log of Bannings and such like.
August 26, 2018 at 10:33 pm
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(August 26, 2018 at 10:29 pm)Losty Wrote: (August 26, 2018 at 10:20 pm)mh.brewer Wrote: No judgement, just a question. Could the thread have been moved to R'lyeh?
If we did that what would even be the point of the no calling out rule? Basically anyone could call out as long as the thread was in r’lyeh
OK, now confused. Is "calling out" something different from "personal attack"?
https://atheistforums.org/thread-4565.html
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Edit: Maybe the thread started out in R'lyeh to begin with, not sure.
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RE: Peanut Gallery Commentary on the Staff Log of Bannings and such like.
August 26, 2018 at 10:40 pm
(August 26, 2018 at 10:33 pm)mh.brewer Wrote: (August 26, 2018 at 10:29 pm)Losty Wrote: If we did that what would even be the point of the no calling out rule? Basically anyone could call out as long as the thread was in r’lyeh
OK, now confused. Is "calling out" something different from "personal attack"?
https://atheistforums.org/thread-4565.html
Edujumakate me please.
Edit: Maybe the thread started out in R'lyeh to begin with, not sure.
Calling out is when you create a thread aimed at a specific person. A personal attack is just attack someone personally. So long as it’s not in the OP it’s not considered calling out.
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