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RE: Differing degrees of rape?
October 20, 2014 at 6:55 am
(October 19, 2014 at 10:37 pm)Beccs Wrote: I will sum this up as far as I'm concerned:
Rape: BAD!
Not so fast! Rape is A - OK when the god of the bible commands it, like when the soldiers of israel take female virgin captives. Furthermore a few silver coins to her father and you can rape her all you want..
I can't believe you guys forgot that the source of our morals tells us that!
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RE: Differing degrees of rape?
October 21, 2014 at 11:35 am
If couples like playing that type of game, as in 'Scenario A,' there should be some sort of safe word for when either one of you is not actually comfortable with the situation, this scenario is rape, period. Any sex with a non-consenting person is rape in my mind.
I have been in situations where a girl and I were fooling around and she started resisting, though I knew that she wanted me to take control and sort of dominate her... and while I understand this may be confusing for some men, it's pretty easy to gauge, in my opinion, whether she is simply being a tease and wants you to take control or actually wants you to stop and get the fuck off of her. While I'm sure some women take this farther than others, the moral of the story is, if you feel like you are legitimately forcing yourself on someone, stop.
Now in scenario a, as many people may disagree with me or call me a 'rape apologist,' doesn't the blame lay on the woman in this scenario? If this sort of rough sex/domination is something that a couple regularly partakes in, isn't it either one of their responsibilities (depending on who is dominating and who is being dominated) to not only express when they are uncomfortable with something but also develop some sort of language to say, "Hey I am really not cool with this stop right now." .....? Maybe I am seeing something wrong or differently than others but that's how it comes off to me. If it is a regular thing for my wife or girlfriend to want me to dominate her or play out some sort of 'rape fantasy,' how am I supposed to know when she is uncomfortable unless we have some sort of safe word or code word?
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RE: Differing degrees of rape?
October 21, 2014 at 5:27 pm
If that's the kind of sex you enjoy, both partners should be demanding a way to know 100% for certain when the submissive partner actually wants the dominant partner to stop. Anything else is completely irresponsible.
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RE: Differing degrees of rape?
October 21, 2014 at 5:29 pm
(October 21, 2014 at 5:27 pm)Losty Wrote: If that's the kind of sex you enjoy, both partners should be demanding a way to know 100% for certain when the submissive partner actually wants the dominant partner to stop. Anything else is completely irresponsible.
We call it the "safe word."
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RE: Differing degrees of rape?
October 21, 2014 at 5:36 pm
(October 20, 2014 at 6:55 am)Brakeman Wrote: (October 19, 2014 at 10:37 pm)Beccs Wrote: I will sum this up as far as I'm concerned:
Rape: BAD!
Not so fast! Rape is A - OK when the god of the bible commands it, like when the soldiers of israel take female virgin captives. Furthermore a few silver coins to her father and you can rape her all you want..
I can't believe you guys forgot that the source of our morals tells us that!
Was the catholic clergy teaching anothor piece of christian morality from the very source itself when they tell boys to turn the other cheek?
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RE: Differing degrees of rape?
October 21, 2014 at 5:57 pm
(October 21, 2014 at 5:29 pm)Jenny A Wrote: (October 21, 2014 at 5:27 pm)Losty Wrote: If that's the kind of sex you enjoy, both partners should be demanding a way to know 100% for certain when the submissive partner actually wants the dominant partner to stop. Anything else is completely irresponsible.
We call it the "safe word."
Ours is a cute pretty word that is obviously not sexual and cannot be mistaken for sexy talk. If someone doesn't want a safeword, they still need to find a responsible way to communicate when no means yes and when it actually means no.
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RE: Differing degrees of rape?
October 21, 2014 at 6:02 pm
(October 21, 2014 at 5:57 pm)Losty Wrote: Ours is a cute pretty word that is obviously not sexual and cannot be mistaken for sexy talk. If someone doesn't want a safeword, they still need to find a responsible way to communicate when no means yes and when it actually means no.
Yes indeed. Action based "safe words" are necessary if gagging is called for.
Usually though, partners who know each other well never actually have to use or hear them. We know each other well enough to know when no means no without hearing that cute non-sexual word, whatever it happens to be.
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RE: Differing degrees of rape?
October 21, 2014 at 6:10 pm
(October 16, 2014 at 7:22 pm)Beccs Wrote: (October 16, 2014 at 7:18 pm)FatAndFaithless Wrote: Huh.. two underage people having consensual sex is a crime?
Technically, yes. That actually depends on the penal code of the country. For example in the US it is considered rape, but in Canada that can't be persecuted as a crime.
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RE: Differing degrees of rape?
October 21, 2014 at 6:38 pm
(October 21, 2014 at 5:27 pm)Losty Wrote: If that's the kind of sex you enjoy, both partners should be demanding a way to know 100% for certain when the submissive partner actually wants the dominant partner to stop. Anything else is completely irresponsible.
(October 21, 2014 at 5:29 pm)Jenny A Wrote: We call it the "safe word."
Exactly. A word that will not come up in the course of the role-play, totally unrelated, and not so simple as "stop", which can be misconstrued.
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RE: Differing degrees of rape?
October 21, 2014 at 6:45 pm
(October 21, 2014 at 6:38 pm)Thumpalumpacus Wrote: (October 21, 2014 at 5:27 pm)Losty Wrote: If that's the kind of sex you enjoy, both partners should be demanding a way to know 100% for certain when the submissive partner actually wants the dominant partner to stop. Anything else is completely irresponsible.
(October 21, 2014 at 5:29 pm)Jenny A Wrote: We call it the "safe word."
Exactly. A word that will not come up in the course of the role-play, totally unrelated, and not so simple as "stop", which can be misconstrued. yes like Wyoming or Shishkabob
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