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Need a place to confide
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Need a place to confide
Hey guys, I'm new on the forum. But not new to atheism. I started questioning religion when I was probably 17 or so. Grew up in a strong catholic home. Church every Sunday, Catholicism every Monday, and constant teachings, and force feedings to believe in "the holy trinity". Got baptized before I could even think for myself. Went through life pleasing my family by relying on nothing but faith in a story that held no water. I wouldn't say I "turned against God", I just think I came to my own realization. I'm not against religion. In fact, I'm comfortable saying, we all have the right to believe what we want. I'm a happily married man, with two alamazing children. My wife doesn't fully know if my disbelief in God. I've tried opening up a time or two, but she just says she doesn't want to talk about it, because it scares her. I get it, she doesn't want to be "dammed". Just like everyone whom has a strong faith in their religion. My wife is Mormon, and my father, and stepmother are catholic, while my biological mother is Mormon. None of them fully know that I just don't believe it. I can't talk to them about it, because they get upset, and disappointed. So I keep it to myself. I'm not in any way "anti-God", I just strongly feel as if it is a fairytale, created so that society had a reason for morals, because conformists don't have the full mind capacity to think for themselves, and decide what is right and wrong. So in turn, they needed someone to create guidelines for them. Which is fine, but it is a little out of control in this modern world. People are brainwashed from the time of birth, to believe in a story that is utterly inconceivable on a scientific level. Don't get me wrong, I'm not a science freak, however, everything that has literal proof in this world, can be shown through scientific facts. For many years now, I cannot put any belief in fideism. But, I'm alone in this journey in everyday life, being as I'm surrounded in such strong believers that God exists. Therefore, I confide only internally, and sometimes that's just not enough. I'm hoping I've found a community to help me with such a battle. Thank you, to everyone that has taken the time to read this, and give your welcomes, and responses.
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#2
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Welcome of AF. Hope you find what you need.
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#3
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Welcome Welcome

I understand that suffocating feeling about not being able to fully open up to your loved ones. But I do hope, one day they will be able to understand your questions and concerns. Don't worry though, we are here for you Smile
Quote:To know yet to think that one does not know is best; Not to know yet to think that one knows will lead to difficulty.
- Lau Tzu

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Welcome Smile
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#5
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Hello Smile Welcome to AF.
I can't remember where this verse is from, I think it got removed from canon:

"I don't hang around with mostly men because I'm gay. It's because men are better than women. Better trained, better equipped...better. Just better! I'm not gay."

For context, this is the previous verse:

"Hi Jesus" -robvalue
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Welcome!

(October 27, 2014 at 3:50 pm)Soloatheist Wrote: I'm not against religion. In fact, I'm comfortable saying, we all have the right to believe what we want.
I dearly hope most atheists here would agree. That doesn't mean it's a good idea though.
Quote:I'm a happily married man, with two alamazing children.
It's ok to make up new adjectives for your children Smile
Quote:My wife doesn't fully know if my disbelief in God. I've tried opening up a time or two, but she just says she doesn't want to talk about it, because it scares her. I get it, she doesn't want to be "dammed". Just like everyone whom has a strong faith in their religion.
I'm sorry, that sucks.
Quote: My wife is Mormon, and my father, and stepmother are catholic, while my biological mother is Mormon.
Oh jees...
Quote:None of them fully know that I just don't believe it. I can't talk to them about it, because they get upset, and disappointed. So I keep it to myself. I'm not in any way "anti-God", I just strongly feel as if it is a fairytale, created so that society had a reason for morals, because conformists don't have the full mind capacity to think for themselves, and decide what is right and wrong.
After your further elaborations, which sound reasonably anti-God, I find it interesting that you feel the need to stress that you are in fact not anti-God. What do you mean by that?
Quote:Don't get me wrong, I'm not a science freak
Pity!
Quote:however, everything that has literal proof in this world, can be shown through scientific facts.
Oh, you're a science freak. Go on...
Quote:For many years now, I cannot put any belief in fideism. But, I'm alone in this journey in everyday life, being as I'm surrounded in such strong believers that God exists. Therefore, I confide only internally, and sometimes that's just not enough. I'm hoping I've found a community to help me with such a battle. Thank you, to everyone that has taken the time to read this, and give your welcomes, and responses.

Forgive me my sarcasm, I had too much red wine. Looking forward to your further insights!
The fool hath said in his heart, There is a God. They are corrupt, they have done abominable works, there is none that doeth good.
Psalm 14, KJV revised edition

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Welcome
For Religion & Health see:[/b][/size] Williams & Sternthal. (2007). Spirituality, religion and health: Evidence and research directions. Med. J. Aust., 186(10), S47-S50. -LINK

The WIN/Gallup End of Year Survey 2013 found the US was perceived to be the greatest threat to world peace by a huge margin, with 24% of respondents fearful of the US followed by: 8% for Pakistan, and 6% for China. This was followed by 5% each for: Afghanistan, Iran, Israel, North Korea. -LINK


"That's disgusting. There were clean athletes out there that have had their whole careers ruined by people like Lance Armstrong who just bended thoughts to fit their circumstances. He didn't look up cheating because he wanted to stop, he wanted to justify what he was doing and to keep that continuing on." - Nicole Cooke
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Hello there.

Once you rid yourself of religion you'll feel much better no matter what your surroundings.

You can relax here.
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Welcome
Whoever fights monsters should see to it that in the process he does not become a monster. And if you gaze long enough into an abyss, the abyss will gaze back into you

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Welcome
If there is a god, I want to believe that there is a god.  If there is not a god, I want to believe that there is no god.
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