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RE: Belief and Knowledge
October 31, 2014 at 1:20 am
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It would appear so, as there is no difference to me between whether or not gods exist and whether or not you have hair of some sort. They are the same order of question, to me. In either case, ultimately, the answers to -those- questions matter very little to me.
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RE: Belief and Knowledge
October 31, 2014 at 1:27 am
Quote:You have already excluded the supernatural from consideration.
Correct as there is no evidence for the supernatural....beyond the delusions of theists.
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RE: Belief and Knowledge
October 31, 2014 at 9:09 am
(October 31, 2014 at 1:20 am)Rhythm Wrote: It would appear so, as there is no difference to me between whether or not gods exist and whether or not you have hair of some sort. They are the same order of question, to me. In either case, ultimately, the answers to -those- questions matter very little to me.
Yeah, that's the question that gets skipped too often-- what if there IS a God of some type-- so what? What's the big plus for me, my life, and the species?
Unless it's Sky Daddy, which is simply a weak idea, I'm not sure that God means anything more to us than the truth of the Big Bang.
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RE: Belief and Knowledge
October 31, 2014 at 9:14 am
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(October 31, 2014 at 9:09 am)bennyboy Wrote: (October 31, 2014 at 1:20 am)Rhythm Wrote: It would appear so, as there is no difference to me between whether or not gods exist and whether or not you have hair of some sort. They are the same order of question, to me. In either case, ultimately, the answers to -those- questions matter very little to me.
Yeah, that's the question that gets skipped too often-- what if there IS a God of some type-- so what? What's the big plus for me, my life, and the species?
Unless it's Sky Daddy, which is simply a weak idea, I'm not sure that God means anything more to us than the truth of the Big Bang.
If the question of Gods existence and required subsequent propositions necessary to evaluate such a question do not interest you.....why are you here?
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RE: Belief and Knowledge
October 31, 2014 at 9:53 am
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(October 30, 2014 at 7:57 pm)Cthulhu Dreaming Wrote: Not me personally, but I once had a friend who was an atheist and believed in reincarnation.
And I believe in compost which may be code for reincarnation. 
(October 31, 2014 at 1:27 am)Minimalist Wrote: Quote:You have already excluded the supernatural from consideration.
Correct as there is no evidence for the supernatural....beyond the delusions of theists.
There is really only the natural you know and that natural you don't yet understand. "Supernatural" isn't an enduring category and contains no permanent elements.
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RE: Belief and Knowledge
October 31, 2014 at 10:12 am
(October 31, 2014 at 9:53 am)whateverist Wrote: There is really only the natural you know and that natural you don't yet understand. "Supernatural" isn't an enduring category and contains no permanent elements.
And then there is quantum randomness which cannot be explained by any theory of local hidden variables.
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RE: Belief and Knowledge
October 31, 2014 at 10:13 am
Yet.
And nobody claims that's supernatural.
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RE: Belief and Knowledge
October 31, 2014 at 10:34 am
To what extent then does the category of atheism overlap naturalism? Seems to be at least 90% on AF at least.
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RE: Belief and Knowledge
October 31, 2014 at 10:37 am
Do you mean among atheists, or logically? Atheism is just lack of the God-belief. Logically, an atheist can still believe in non-naturalist stuff, just not god (as that would make them not an atheist). If you're talking practically, most atheists are naturalists because the methods by which we arrived at atheism generally end up with the conclusion of naturalism as well, not because there is some logical impetus between them, but because they both arise from an examination of the world.
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RE: Belief and Knowledge
October 31, 2014 at 10:39 am
(October 31, 2014 at 10:34 am)ChadWooters Wrote: To what extent then does the category of atheism overlap naturalism? Seems to be at least 90% on AF at least.
You say that as if it was a bad thing Chad.
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