Atheism is unreasonable

[The Grand Nudger]

As this fucker here-

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The ironically named (and I love that it both looks like and is named after-lol)African Hunting Dog, Wild Dog, Painted Dog....isn't actually a dog at all. Different genus. Foxes, as Esqui asked..also not dogs.

[Thumpalumpacus]

dogs and hamsters are different species.

They are different kinds of animals, too.

Dogs and coyotes are different species.

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If omnipresent means "infinite", then yeah, God is infinite in that sense...thats not how I would put it, but hey, do yo thang.

Infinite means limitless. By definition an infinite god is everywhere; that god has no limits.

You claim that no one can hide from a god that is omnipresent; clearly you're envisioning a god that is everywhere.

And just as clearly, you're trying to dissemble.

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Oh boy....
You're just the gift that keeps on giving!

When you find a fossil, why are you determining anything other than "this once living thing has now died". Why are you bringing extra stuff in to it??

See, evolutionists already presuppose evolution, so when they find a fossil, they let their presupposition interpret the finding.

I see you're unaware of what the "extra stuff" is...
Dilemma.... should I tell you about all the research done on the surrounding area where the fossils are found? Or should I leave you ignorant?
What do you think?

Nope.

Why am I not surprised?...
Are you not curious to go to a natural history museum?

They are different kinds of animals, too.


If you aren't African American, then we are different varieities of the same "kind"..mankind.

Oh.... ohh..... oh, boy....
It's "varieties", now?

What if I'm...oh, you're going to like this

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This reminds me of a television interview I saw many years ago. A reporter from one of the major US television networks (I forget which one) was interviewing black British athlete Kriss Akabusi after being a member of
the 400 metres relay team that took the gold medal at the 1991 Athletics
World Championships. The interviewer started off with:

"So, Kriss, what does this mean to you as an African-American?"

"I'm not American, I'm British"

"Yes, but as a British African-American ..."

"I'm not African. I'm not American. I'm British."

This went on for some time before the reporter got so flustered that she
gave up and went to interview someone else. I guess more than anything
else it demonstrates the potential absurdity of political correctness -- this reporter was so tied-up with the idea that the "correct" term for someone of afro-caribbean ancestry was African-American and not Black that she couldn't cope with the fact that many black people are neither African
nor American.

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You want to define "variety", after you define "kind"?
There's this awesome way to classify living organisms that biologists came up with a few years ago and it relies on something called "species".
Even so, the concept of species is a bit fuzzy and you can never ever find an element of a given species giving birth to an element of a different species.
But the offspring of the offspring of the offspring... (a few thousands of generations)... of the offspring of an element will be a different species.
You've been told this several times now. I don't expect you to acknowledge it this time, but... it's one more.

Knock it off.

LOL
I was on a roll! what can I say?

Dude, that post rocks.

No, really, it kicks ass.

[Thumpalumpacus]

That's "kind" of backwards. But meh, not too big of a deal, if you choose to associate the entire genus with the member with which you are most familiar, fine. I've already asked somebody this question today, but I guess it's fitting. Is a fox a "kind" of dog, in your estimation? How about an african wild dog?

How about a jackal? A hyena?

Where is the line drawn, and what is the criterion?

[dyresand]

Lets take away all of the fluff and feathers for a minute. Let's take away all of the technical babble, all of the rhetoric for just a second.

I can't speak for every religion, but I am a Christian theist. Now what does that imply? Well, that would mean that I believe Jesus Christ died on the cross for the sins of mankind, and that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have everlasting life.

That is basically my belief in a nut shell. Now, if you are an atheist, you may find my beliefs laughable, sickening, stupid, etc....which is fine, Christianity isn't for everyone because after all, Jesus said "But the gateway to life is very narrow and the road is difficult, and only a few ever find it." (Matt 7:14).

But as an atheist, here is what you have to believe...you have to believe that billions of years ago before humanity, dead matter was floating around in space...and for whatever reason, suddenly, this dead matter "came to life". Not only did it come to life, but it came to life and began thinking, talking, and having sex.

Just think about that for a second. This non-living material suddenly CAME TO LIFE. For the life of me, I just can't get myself to believe that, even if I tried. I just don't understand how naturalism/atheism is a more reasonable position than theism.

You have to believe that a process that can't think or see, created consciousness. So consciousness came from a process that can't think??

I just don't have enough faith to be an atheist.

1. actually learn about other positions before attacking atheism
2. There is no such thing as dead matter the only state matter is in currently is active. "dead" matter wont exist until the universe freezes over.
4. the big bang energy exploded outwards it was hot really hot we got our fist element helium figure it out from there.
5. you know that stuff in space were pretty much made of it were made of star stuff so guess what in some weird way we are related to literally everything.
7. Atheism is a better default position there is no evidence of god. Theism is the worst default position because you have the burden of proof and still fail to hypothesize a god, with testable proof.
8. you don't have enough faith to be a atheist. that is atheism its the lack of faith and belief in a all knowing and all loving god. so you should say i lack the metal processes of understanding the natural world and only want to say god did it.

[Esquilax]

Where is the line drawn,

Wherever His_Majesty needs it to be at the time.

and what is the criterion?

Officially, there isn't one, else H_M would have just said what it is by now.

Unofficially, it's "X looks a bit like Y, therefore same kind."

Secretly, it's whatever His_Majesty needs it to be at the time.

[dyresand]

Where is the line drawn,

Wherever His_Majesty needs it to be at the time.

and what is the criterion?

Officially, there isn't one, else H_M would have just said what it is by now.

Unofficially, it's "X looks a bit like Y, therefore same kind."

Secretly, it's whatever His_Majesty needs it to be at the time.

i stated this some where.. oh its a new thread on how creationism is stupid in 1 huge paragraph. there is a problem a real big problem if adam and eve were real millions of years of incest we wouldn't be looking human. also animals really did evolve so did humans. so i don't get why people believe god made everything perfect because god is a guy to and knows or should know that getting hit in the nuts hurts.

[Whateverist]

What seems to be the trouble here? I've received a report that our atheism is acting up again. I came right over.

[dyresand]

What seems to be the trouble here? I've received a report that our atheism is acting up again. I came right over.

welcome grab a beer its going to be a rough day.

[Thumpalumpacus]

Where is the line drawn,

Wherever His_Majesty needs it to be at the time.

and what is the criterion?

Officially, there isn't one, else H_M would have just said what it is by now.

Unofficially, it's "X looks a bit like Y, therefore same kind."

Secretly, it's whatever His_Majesty needs it to be at the time.

Of course.

Forgive my penchant for trying to nail marmalade to the wall.

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What seems to be the trouble here? I've received a report that our atheism is acting up again. I came right over.

We apparently have a flawed epistemology in sector 7B. Please activate the backups, and increase the shields to maximum. Report upon completion.

[Whateverist]

Oh I hope the shields will hold but the tug of salvation is strong. Must - resist - god's - love.