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Can objective morality exist in Atheism?
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RE: Can objective morality exist in Atheism?
(February 20, 2010 at 9:43 pm)tackattack Wrote: I don't feel atheism is a world view.

Why not?
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#42
RE: Can objective morality exist in Atheism?
(February 20, 2010 at 9:50 pm)Zen Badger Wrote:
(February 20, 2010 at 9:43 pm)tackattack Wrote: I don't feel atheism is a world view.

Why not?

I wonder if it might be because is isn't?

Even though a lot of atheists seem to share many common views,the only one we all share is a lack of belief in gods.
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#43
RE: Can objective morality exist in Atheism?
(February 21, 2010 at 12:16 am)padraic Wrote:
(February 20, 2010 at 9:50 pm)Zen Badger Wrote:
(February 20, 2010 at 9:43 pm)tackattack Wrote: I don't feel atheism is a world view.

Why not?

I wonder if it might be because is isn't?

Even though a lot of atheists seem to share many common views,the only one we all share is a lack of belief in gods.

I see it as being a worldview.

It is a way of seeing the world we live in and how it is arranged.
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#44
RE: Can objective morality exist in Atheism?
Quote:I see it as being a worldview.

It is a way of seeing the world we live in and how it is arranged.

It is your right to redefine the meaning of any word you wish to suit yourself.After all,Christians have been doing it with the Bible for about 2000 years,often with complete passages..Thinking

Perfectly willing to agree to disagree.
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#45
RE: Can objective morality exist in Atheism?
(February 21, 2010 at 1:15 am)Zen Badger Wrote:
(February 21, 2010 at 12:16 am)padraic Wrote:
(February 20, 2010 at 9:50 pm)Zen Badger Wrote:
(February 20, 2010 at 9:43 pm)tackattack Wrote: I don't feel atheism is a world view.

Why not?

I wonder if it might be because is isn't?

Even though a lot of atheists seem to share many common views,the only one we all share is a lack of belief in gods.

I see it as being a worldview.

It is a way of seeing the world we live in and how it is arranged.

Buddhists are atheists too, yet my worldview and that of a buddhist are markedly different, so there is clearly something wrong with the criteria you use to determine what a worldview is.
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#46
RE: Can objective morality exist in Atheism?
Is how you see the world determined by the god or gods that you do or don't believe in?

Just so you know, not all buddhists are atheists. At least not in every sense of the word.
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#47
RE: Can objective morality exist in Atheism?
I define world view as "fundamental cognitive orientation of an individual or society encompassing natural philosophy, fundamental existential and normative postulates or themes, values, emotions, and ethics" - wiki
You may consider your own atheism as a view you have on the world. I don't because, by my definition, because their not claiming a positive truth about something. They're postulating that others are wrong about a truth claim. They may be a system of checks and balances for crazies, but I wouldn't consider it a world view. I'm not an atheist though so I'm flexible.
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#48
RE: Can objective morality exist in Atheism?
I don't see "my" atheism as a world view.
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#49
RE: Can objective morality exist in Atheism?
atheism isn't a worldview - it's a disbelief in God. You can be an atheist and think:

Fairies exist
Angels exist
People are/aren't deserving of equal rights
Evolution is garbage
Science is ridiculous
Morality is objective
or any other belief, other than one involving a deity.

If atheism is a worldview, so is not believing in santa claus and mickey mouse.
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RE: Can objective morality exist in Atheism?
world·view (wûrldvy)
n. In both senses also called Weltanschauung.
1. The overall perspective from which one sees and interprets the world.
2. A collection of beliefs about life and the universe held by an individual or a group.

This taken from the Freedictionary.com http://www.thefreedictionary.com/worldview

And I maintain that atheism IS a worldview, certainly a fundamental part of your worldviews.

Otherwise why are you all devoting so much time and effort to it?

If religion is a worldview then atheism( as an opposing belief system) has to be as well.

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